The Conservative Party/Government

[Eebo]

and it is coming

I was thinking more like the hungry masses eating a billionaire as a warning to the others :)

 

[East Level 2]

I was thinking more like the hungry masses eating a billionaire as a warning to the others :)

Can we choose which billionaire gets eaten.
My, erm, mate, said something about eating Michelle Mone.

 

[bluethrunthru]

top work

 

[Vic]

Interesting read in the most recent New Yorker. Longish.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/...en-years-of-conservative-rule-done-to-britain

I couldn't get beyond "Get Brexit Done". Just too depressing.

 

[Vic]

top work

But Siemens is building trains at a new factory in Goole.

Good for Goole, but is this really better than British Railways managing regular orders for the various railway works inherited when they were nationalised?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Note to Tories and supporters of privatisation this is an INTERNATIONAL event watched around the globe ........ what a fucking message we are saying to the world - we are being called shit island

 

[bluethrunthru]

But Siemens is building trains at a new factory in Goole.

Good for Goole, but is this really better than British Railways managing regular orders for the various railway works inherited when they were nationalised?

The main issue seems to be under BR there were regional workshops and train building hubs like Crewe and Swindon. In these places there were apprenticeships and a rich history of fitters, tool makers and joiners etc in the surrounding area providing school leavers access to profitable careers. What politicians now call high skilled high paid jobs.

Privatisation has led to other parts of the country assembling parts often imported to build a train. Many of these areas have no background in what they do and are at the mercy of an unplanned chaotic repair and replacement schedule with owners who are attracted by favourable loans etc and who on a whim can relocate to anywhere else in the world if they get a better offer. I mean what are we going to do not buy imported rolling stock and shut down lines?

For examples see things like Honda in Swindon.

 

[domalino]

And that’s 98 more than they deserve

The low boundary for margin of error is 40 seats…

 

[Vic]

The main issue seems to be under BR there were regional workshops and train building hubs like Crewe and Swindon. In these places there were apprenticeships and a rich history of fitters, tool makers and joiners etc in the surrounding area providing school leavers access to profitable careers. What politicians now call high skilled high paid jobs.

Privatisation has led to other parts of the country assembling parts often imported to build a train. Many of these areas have no background in what they do and are at the mercy of an unplanned chaotic repair and replacement schedule with owners who are attracted by favourable loans etc and who on a whim can relocate to anywhere else in the world if they get a better offer. I mean what are we going to do not buy imported rolling stock and shut down lines?

For examples see things like Honda in Swindon.

The car industry is different. That's been decimated by Brexit, from expectations of record production pre-Brexit vote to the current hollowed-out industry, where it's taken a billion pounds of public subsidies to keep Nissan in Sunderland.

On the railways, it's different train operating companies and the leasing companies chasing cheapest price. Competitive procurement - but any savings to TOCs subsidised by the taxpayer are eaten up by benefits paid to where the jobs have disappeared.

 

[Mike N]

Note to Tories and supporters of privatisation this is an INTERNATIONAL event watched around the globe ........ what a fucking message we are saying to the world - we are being called shit island

World-leading turds in the water.

I wonder what other country would sell off its water?