The Conservative Party

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I will give you the benefit of the doubt ;-)

Id be amazed if he has his underpants on the right way around these days!

You voted for him.

 

[blueinsa]

You voted for him.

And?

 

[hcblue95]

Tbf to Boris I don't realy see the situation here being much different to anywhere else apart from maybe se Asia where they went into sars rather than flu mode from the outset.

I would imagine other governments have been slightly less corrupt in giving contracts to donors and mates.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I would imagine other governments have been slightly less corrupt in giving contracts to donors and mates.

Yes, but that is a corruption and nepotism issue rather than the actual response to the pandemic. I do recognise the two will be linked - if you pick the wrong contractors you get sub service delivery.

 

[hcblue95]

Yes, but that is a corruption and nepotism issue rather than the actual response to the pandemic. I do recognise the two will be linked - if you pick the wrong contractors you get sub service delivery.

Yes I very much dislike the tories, but agree in terms of lockdowns and all that jazz it's been an impossible situation and most Western countries have struggled similarly. The biggest failure of the government is the test and trace system, but apart from that they've not been too incompetent I wouldn't say.

 

[BobKowalski]

Yes I very much dislike the tories, but agree in terms of lockdowns and all that jazz it's been an impossible situation and most Western countries have struggled similarly. The biggest failure of the government is the test and trace system, but apart from that they've not been too incompetent I wouldn't say.

Their biggest failures to date are: an inability to act quickly, ie went into the first lockdown too late, gone into this lockdown too late, overpromising and underdelivering on testing, track and trace, poor communications, squabbling with regional and devolved authorities over financial support, overselling by saying the crisis will be over by this summer, September, next spring (it won’t), not looking at countries in the Far East that have rigorous mask wearing, public sanitisers everywhere and putting these measures in place with strict enforcement early on, giving public contracts to cronies without proper oversight, putting mates in charge and valuing loyalty over competence.

And that’s just the highlights.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Yes I very much dislike the tories, but agree in terms of lockdowns and all that jazz it's been an impossible situation and most Western countries have struggled similarly. The biggest failure of the government is the test and trace system, but apart from that they've not been too incompetent I wouldn't say.

What about ignoring the recommendations of their own report into what they should and the amounts they should stockpile for a pandemic? Selling the contract to manage the stockpiles of health equipment that we had to an American subsidiary of a postal service with no experience in managing health equipment stockpiles? watching the disaster develop in Italy ...... watching China build a hospital in a week .. the same week that the Tories announced the closure of ten hospitals and walk in centres? And then sodding off on holiday for the rest of the month?

Is that incompetent enough? (thats for starters)

 

[blueinsa]

We have never been and nor will we be going into a lockdown.

Its a bullshit phrase that gives the illusion we are doing something.

What we are doing is arbitrarily putting millions into a huge struggle financially whilst fucking with their mental health whilst allowing more than enough to basically go about life as normal so they can keep spreading and reinfecting.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I noticed that as well. In fact, none of them wore a poppy.

It was still only October yesterday, I don’t put my poppy on until the week of Remembrance Sunday (ie from tomorrow). I don’t see why anyone else should.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Yes I very much dislike the tories, but agree in terms of lockdowns and all that jazz it's been an impossible situation and most Western countries have struggled similarly. The biggest failure of the government is the test and trace system, but apart from that they've not been too incompetent I wouldn't say.

The biggest failures for me were hospital PPE at the start and not closing down our borders in February and September when it was clear that when our numbers were low, the way it would come in was from abroad.

Track and Trace doesn’t work if the R is moving faster than tracking a tracing. It’s been shown in this wave in Germany: worked back in the Summer quite well there but the R is rocketing over there in this wave and it’s impossible for T&T to keep up.

Plus with T&T, you are relying on selfish humans to isolate when tracked and traced. There would always be a sizeable damaging number of people who wouldn’t isolate, or bosses who demand their employees go to work if they have no symptoms.