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On pensions My understanding is that since good old Gordon changed the funding rules in pension schemes and Pension Trustees responsibilities were (rightly) severely tightened, funds have turned to Gilts as they are the safest bet even though returns have consistently declined. This has been done to protect the Trustees from any scrutiny and questions that they have taken risks with Fund monies.
This resulted in the death of many final salary schemes or the need for schemes to make Emergency top up funding plans or at worst declare insolvency and turn to the Pension Protection Fund for help. But all open or slumber final salary schemes still have liabilities and many are, I understand still wedded to Gilts. Drop in the value of Gilts means a drop in the value of a Fund and the fund has to react. The trigger is usually a revaluation which has to be done every few years. But when something as drastic as this Gilt drop occurs, Directors / Shareholders and Trustees have to react and sound warnings.

On an aside the State Pension Fund is not underwritten and exists in the belief that people paying tax will fund the liabilities as we move forward. That debt alone is astronomical and does not appear in any financial modelling by any government Party.
Wait are you saying people's private workplace pensions or state pensions or both are at risk ?
 
You said Odey was part of the decision making process due to his links with Kwarteng.
I hardly think a chap of Odeys financial standing requires the assistance of Kwasi.
Why couldnt he lose?

He hired him as a political consultant after he worked for Odey full time and went into politics, so he clearly did have a need for assistance at least at some points…
 
You said Odey was part of the decision making process due to his links with Kwarteng.
I hardly think a chap of Odeys financial standing requires the assistance of Kwasi.
Why couldnt he lose?
Odey is a fat crook with establishment links through the old boy network. If you read his history he's lost shit loads of other people's money as often as he's made it. In this case, if he knew ahead of time what Kwarteng's plan was (allegedly because he advised him on it), he couldn't lose. It's called insider trading.
 
On pensions My understanding is that since good old Gordon changed the funding rules in pension schemes and Pension Trustees responsibilities were (rightly) severely tightened, funds have turned to Gilts as they are the safest bet even though returns have consistently declined. This has been done to protect the Trustees from any scrutiny and questions that they have taken risks with Fund monies.
This resulted in the death of many final salary schemes or the need for schemes to make Emergency top up funding plans or at worst declare insolvency and turn to the Pension Protection Fund for help. But all open or slumber final salary schemes still have liabilities and many are, I understand still wedded to Gilts. Drop in the value of Gilts means a drop in the value of a Fund and the fund has to react. The trigger is usually a revaluation which has to be done every few years. But when something as drastic as this Gilt drop occurs, Directors / Shareholders and Trustees have to react and sound warnings.

On an aside the State Pension Fund is not underwritten and exists in the belief that people paying tax will fund the liabilities as we move forward. That debt alone is astronomical and does not appear in any financial modelling by any government Party.


The UK State ''Pension'' fund is not classed as a pension. It was changed to a benefit and is therefore classed under the 'Welfare' statements. This change allowed Osborne to strip the 50's women of their entitlement to retire at 60 with next to no notice and make them wait until 65 or over.

it is funded by current contributions and therefore not in deficit.
 
First thing they need to do is stop all the twats who are betting/shorting against the Pound, like Odey.

All hoping to get Soros lucky, even if bankrupts the entire economy.

The only way to stop people shorting the pound is for the treasury and BoE to start making good decisions and for the goverment to stop trying to ruin the country.

The people profiting off terrible governance are not the problem.
 
Forgive me for not being clued up when it comes to politics. But what would it take to get these looneys out. Do we have to wait another couple of years until next GE or can anyone "force" one now.
 

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