TheMightyQuinn said:Best young British manager of his generation ruined by a squad of ego maniacal players who could only perform for a knight of the realm.
I'd be thoroughly humiliated if I was a rag, knowing my idols had shat all over my club, the united way and also the best young British manager of his generation.
Heard somebody from the media say that Moyes has always wanted to manage in Germany, i'v no idea why he wants to go there or even if he speaks Germanmancity1 said:de niro said:MCFCinUSA said:I don't think he'd be safe in London
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good point :)
There will be a few premiership clubs whose positions will be up for grabs over the summer , I am sure he will get one of them.
Given the Utd experience he may be better to bide his time as we all know a few big jobs will become available again next season as they do each year.
Maybe a spell on the continent will do him some good and of course the England job will most likely be available after the world cup.
blue underpants said:Heard somebody from the media say that Moyes has always wanted to manage in Germany, i'v no idea why he wants to go there or even if he speaks Germanmancity1 said:de niro said:good point :)
There will be a few premiership clubs whose positions will be up for grabs over the summer , I am sure he will get one of them.
Given the Utd experience he may be better to bide his time as we all know a few big jobs will become available again next season as they do each year.
Maybe a spell on the continent will do him some good and of course the England job will most likely be available after the world cup.
Vienna_70 said:blue underpants said:Heard somebody from the media say that Moyes has always wanted to manage in Germany, i'v no idea why he wants to go there or even if he speaks Germanmancity1 said:There will be a few premiership clubs whose positions will be up for grabs over the summer , I am sure he will get one of them.
Given the Utd experience he may be better to bide his time as we all know a few big jobs will become available again next season as they do each year.
Maybe a spell on the continent will do him some good and of course the England job will most likely be available after the world cup.
I doubt that would matter, as most Germans - and other nationalities - speak English nowadays.
Vienna_70 said:blue underpants said:Heard somebody from the media say that Moyes has always wanted to manage in Germany, i'v no idea why he wants to go there or even if he speaks Germanmancity1 said:There will be a few premiership clubs whose positions will be up for grabs over the summer , I am sure he will get one of them.
Given the Utd experience he may be better to bide his time as we all know a few big jobs will become available again next season as they do each year.
Maybe a spell on the continent will do him some good and of course the England job will most likely be available after the world cup.
I doubt that would matter, as most Germans - and other nationalities - speak English nowadays.
Lancet Fluke said:Vienna_70 said:blue underpants said:Heard somebody from the media say that Moyes has always wanted to manage in Germany, i'v no idea why he wants to go there or even if he speaks German
I doubt that would matter, as most Germans - and other nationalities - speak English nowadays.
And even if they don't you can always just shout. That always works.
His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.Malty said:Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes
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If Moyes ever goes public with true thoughts on Utd players' efforts, he'll be absolutely damning. So would they about him, mind you ... .
Alot of scared people out there, Moyes is unhappy.
gordondaviesmoustache said:His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.Malty said:Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes
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If Moyes ever goes public with true thoughts on Utd players' efforts, he'll be absolutely damning. So would they about him, mind you ... .
Alot of scared people out there, Moyes is unhappy.
Wilf Wild 1937 said:gordondaviesmoustache said:His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.Malty said:Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes
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If Moyes ever goes public with true thoughts on Utd players' efforts, he'll be absolutely damning. So would they about him, mind you ... .
Alot of scared people out there, Moyes is unhappy.
Now this is interesting. I've heard he's due about a £5m pay out based on his failure to hit any of his targets.
Apparently he's not happy with this and wants £10m. May be if they do want None Disclosure then they will
have to pay the higher figure? I don't know anything but I'm guessing a public slanging match between Moyes
and his players is the last thing the club (sorry brand) would want.
You raise an interesting, wider point with what you post and on that basis maybe the whole NDA discussions are still ongoing.Wilf Wild 1937 said:gordondaviesmoustache said:His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.Malty said:Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes
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If Moyes ever goes public with true thoughts on Utd players' efforts, he'll be absolutely damning. So would they about him, mind you ... .
Alot of scared people out there, Moyes is unhappy.
Now this is interesting. I've heard he's due about a £5m pay out based on his failure to hit any of his targets.
Apparently he's not happy with this and wants £10m. May be if they do want None Disclosure then they will
have to pay the higher figure? I don't know anything but I'm guessing a public slanging match between Moyes
and his players is the last thing the club (sorry brand) would want.
The Chosen Gonethe blue panther said:Not sure if it's been done but, has anyone seen a mock up of the new banner yet - "The Sacked One"
Someone get on to it please.
Wilf Wild 1937 said:gordondaviesmoustache said:His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.Malty said:Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes
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If Moyes ever goes public with true thoughts on Utd players' efforts, he'll be absolutely damning. So would they about him, mind you ... .
Alot of scared people out there, Moyes is unhappy.
Now this is interesting. I've heard he's due about a £5m pay out based on his failure to hit any of his targets.
Apparently he's not happy with this and wants £10m. May be if they do want None Disclosure then they will
have to pay the higher figure? I don't know anything but I'm guessing a public slanging match between Moyes
and his players is the last thing the club (sorry brand) would want.
TheBlueDune said:The Chosen Gnomethe blue panther said:Not sure if it's been done but, has anyone seen a mock up of the new banner yet - "The Sacked One"
Someone get on to it please.
Ifwecouldjust....... said:No No No...My understanding is that there was a clause in his contract restricting any severance payment to 1 year max if yoonited failed to qualify for Chimps League. Thats why they waited until they were sure they couldn't qualify before they sacked him.
However the briefing / leaks to the press the day before the Everton match may have screwed them 'cos now its looking like constructive dismissal which has an unlimited payout set by a tribunal.
My guess is that the LMA statement today is the first shot across the bows.
Ifwecouldjust....... said:Wilf Wild 1937 said:gordondaviesmoustache said:His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.
Now this is interesting. I've heard he's due about a £5m pay out based on his failure to hit any of his targets.
Apparently he's not happy with this and wants £10m. May be if they do want None Disclosure then they will
have to pay the higher figure? I don't know anything but I'm guessing a public slanging match between Moyes
and his players is the last thing the club (sorry brand) would want.
No No No...My understanding is that there was a clause in his contract restricting any severance payment to 1 year max if yoonited failed to qualify for Chimps League. Thats why they waited until they were sure they couldn't qualify before they sacked him.
However the briefing / leaks to the press the day before the Everton match may have screwed them 'cos now its looking like constructive dismissal which has an unlimited payout set by a tribunal.
My guess is that the LMA statement today is the first shot across the bows.
gordondaviesmoustache said:You raise an interesting, wider point with what you post and on that basis maybe the whole NDA discussions are still ongoing.Wilf Wild 1937 said:gordondaviesmoustache said:His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.
Now this is interesting. I've heard he's due about a £5m pay out based on his failure to hit any of his targets.
Apparently he's not happy with this and wants £10m. May be if they do want None Disclosure then they will
have to pay the higher figure? I don't know anything but I'm guessing a public slanging match between Moyes
and his players is the last thing the club (sorry brand) would want.
Moyes is clearly the only ever incumbent of the united manager's seat in the digital age, other than Ferguson. Taggart can be guaranteed to broadly toe the party line going forward, because it suits his agenda. He, more than anyone, is responsible for this preposterous construct of "the united way" and I have no doubt that he has promoted this mantra primarily for reasons of reflected glory: promotion of youth, continuity of management, exciting attacking football are actually about him, not the club, in his mind. united is merely a vehicle to fuel his egomania. If he turns against the club he undermines his own achievements and image, something he simply isn't going to do. I also wonder how much information, not in the public domain, Uncle Malc has about the GPC, which may also act as a further inhibitor on him commenting upon the club and its owners in anything other than positive terms, at least publicly.
Moyes has no such limits upon the expression of his views. In actual fact the opposite is true. For him to achieve some degree of validation and vindication for his time at united it may be necessary for him to shatter the carefully constructed image of a club that do things differently, with "dignity and class". Making the wider world aware of the difficulty of his task in such a poisonous environment could be his only way to secure another worthwhile job in football.
That presents him with a significant bargaining chip, as the only remaining limit on his public utterances about his time at united remains a contractual one. A man with everything to gain from spilling the beans against an organisation with such a carefully crafted public image as united, especially an image that is built on sand, is holding a remarkably good hand.
The question for Moyes is what's more important to him now? His future career in the game, or a severance package which buys his silence? The answer to the question is based on how much fire is left in his belly and the manner in which united conduct the negotiations. One wrong word, or a hint that gets implied as a threat and a combustible man such as Moyes could be prone to say "fuck you and fuck the united way" and to spill all to a compliant journalist still harbouring residual resentment at their treatment at the hands of Taggart.
We'll see soon enough, I guess.
He may feel differently if he thinks he has nothing to lose.alfabianchi said:gordondaviesmoustache said:You raise an interesting, wider point with what you post and on that basis maybe the whole NDA discussions are still ongoing.Wilf Wild 1937 said:Now this is interesting. I've heard he's due about a £5m pay out based on his failure to hit any of his targets.
Apparently he's not happy with this and wants £10m. May be if they do want None Disclosure then they will
have to pay the higher figure? I don't know anything but I'm guessing a public slanging match between Moyes
and his players is the last thing the club (sorry brand) would want.
Moyes is clearly the only ever incumbent of the united manager's seat in the digital age, other than Ferguson. Taggart can be guaranteed to broadly toe the party line going forward, because it suits his agenda. He, more than anyone, is responsible for this preposterous construct of "the united way" and I have no doubt that he has promoted this mantra primarily for reasons of reflected glory: promotion of youth, continuity of management, exciting attacking football are actually about him, not the club, in his mind. united is merely a vehicle to fuel his egomania. If he turns against the club he undermines his own achievements and image, something he simply isn't going to do. I also wonder how much information, not in the public domain, Uncle Malc has about the GPC, which may also act as a further inhibitor on him commenting upon the club and its owners in anything other than positive terms, at least publicly.
Moyes has no such limits upon the expression of his views. In actual fact the opposite is true. For him to achieve some degree of validation and vindication for his time at united it may be necessary for him to shatter the carefully constructed image of a club that do things differently, with "dignity and class". Making the wider world aware of the difficulty of his task in such a poisonous environment could be his only way to secure another worthwhile job in football.
That presents him with a significant bargaining chip, as the only remaining limit on his public utterances about his time at united remains a contractual one. A man with everything to gain from spilling the beans against an organisation with such a carefully crafted public image as united, especially an image that is built on sand, is holding a remarkably good hand.
The question for Moyes is what's more important to him now? His future career in the game, or a severance package which buys his silence? The answer to the question is based on how much fire is left in his belly and the manner in which united conduct the negotiations. One wrong word, or a hint that gets implied as a threat and a combustible man such as Moyes could be prone to say "fuck you and fuck the united way" and to spill all to a compliant journalist still harbouring residual resentment at their treatment at the hands of Taggart.
We'll see soon enough, I guess.
Not a chance he will rat on them, same goes with the players. It'll all be buried away by the end of the week. In modern football, the type of people who burn their bridges end up at QPR with Harry and Joey.
gordondaviesmoustache said:He may feel differently if he thinks he has nothing to lose.alfabianchi said:gordondaviesmoustache said:You raise an interesting, wider point with what you post and on that basis maybe the whole NDA discussions are still ongoing.
Moyes is clearly the only ever incumbent of the united manager's seat in the digital age, other than Ferguson. Taggart can be guaranteed to broadly toe the party line going forward, because it suits his agenda. He, more than anyone, is responsible for this preposterous construct of "the united way" and I have no doubt that he has promoted this mantra primarily for reasons of reflected glory: promotion of youth, continuity of management, exciting attacking football are actually about him, not the club, in his mind. united is merely a vehicle to fuel his egomania. If he turns against the club he undermines his own achievements and image, something he simply isn't going to do. I also wonder how much information, not in the public domain, Uncle Malc has about the GPC, which may also act as a further inhibitor on him commenting upon the club and its owners in anything other than positive terms, at least publicly.
Moyes has no such limits upon the expression of his views. In actual fact the opposite is true. For him to achieve some degree of validation and vindication for his time at united it may be necessary for him to shatter the carefully constructed image of a club that do things differently, with "dignity and class". Making the wider world aware of the difficulty of his task in such a poisonous environment could be his only way to secure another worthwhile job in football.
That presents him with a significant bargaining chip, as the only remaining limit on his public utterances about his time at united remains a contractual one. A man with everything to gain from spilling the beans against an organisation with such a carefully crafted public image as united, especially an image that is built on sand, is holding a remarkably good hand.
The question for Moyes is what's more important to him now? His future career in the game, or a severance package which buys his silence? The answer to the question is based on how much fire is left in his belly and the manner in which united conduct the negotiations. One wrong word, or a hint that gets implied as a threat and a combustible man such as Moyes could be prone to say "fuck you and fuck the united way" and to spill all to a compliant journalist still harbouring residual resentment at their treatment at the hands of Taggart.
We'll see soon enough, I guess.
Not a chance he will rat on them, same goes with the players. It'll all be buried away by the end of the week. In modern football, the type of people who burn their bridges end up at QPR with Harry and Joey.