I didn't quite understand that line when the detective said the car burner dropped them all in it. Weren't they were all fucked anyway because they were all over CCTV going to a from the murder and having their littler meeting?
In general they've portrayed a very amateur looking level of organised crime. It's not exactly The Godfather, is it? I genuinely couldn't believe they didn't clean the gun in the first episode. Surely we've all watched enough TV by now that if you are going to use a gun, you'd wipe it down afterwards?
Also why do people keep coming down attic ladders when the police raid their houses? How could you think an armed police raid is going to forget the attic?
I'm guessing the cctv, as usual, wasn't clear enough for a conviction.I thought the whole lot of them would get sentenced for conspiracy to commit murder! Was so disappointed at the end when the majority of them got next to fuck all. If all of them meeting up and handing phones over before a murder isn’t conspiracy I don’t know what is. Must have been a shit jury. How did Lee Adshead get not guilty when he’s on cctv getting out of the murder car wearing the same clothes as at the gym earlier! Madness!
charges are vanity, sentences are sanity.
Such a good program.
Full of it when first questioned. Soon shut up when he knew what was coming.The guy who burned himself trying to set fire to the car was the pick of the bunch for me.
How will he qualify for a state pension?I'm not sure what you can change it to? They can't torture someone to speak. I guess you could adjust the law to be deemed guilty if you don't cooperate in interviews but I'm sure civil liberty groups would be all over it.
The others got away lightly on sentencing I thought. They all knew he was going to murder him so should all have got life. For the shooter it should have been a whole life tariff. He shouldn't even have the chance of coming out ever. It's not like he fired the gun to frighten him and killing him was a mistake, it was a cold blooded execution. Still his life is as good as finished. Go inside as a young ripped 28 year old in his prime, come out at the very least a 64 year old, with all the disadvantages that brings. No collateral, no wife and kids/grandkids, health issues, living on the basic state pension which he probably can't draw until he's 75 by the time he gets out. Nobody will know, fear or respect him, in fact he will probably be a target himself for the next generation of offspring from the likes of him. Personally in cases like this it warrants a death penalty.
All this pain, fear and misery in communities caused by the so called war on drugs. Get them legalised. Just like prohibition in the states with alcohol it just doesn't work making something vast amounts of people enjoy doing illegal, it just creates what we see in these programmes.
How will he qualify for a state pension?
You need 35 years full contributions to get it.
Surely they don’t credit prisoners with NI contributions?
How will he qualify for a state pension?
You need 35 years full contributions to get it.
Surely they don’t credit prisoners with NI contributions?
Yep, probably class 2 NI which I think gets you the pension. Presumably if you are doing time and over pensionable age it accrues in the bank as a nice little nest egg for when you get out too?You do on benefits so that night be the same
Yep, probably class 2 NI which I think gets you the pension. Presumably if you are doing time and over pensionable age it accrues in the bank as a nice little nest egg for when you get out too?
Deserves all he getsbefore switching his alligencies to United and hanging around with them all the time.
Just checked and prisoners do not get credited with NI contributions.Yep, probably class 2 NI which I think gets you the pension. Presumably if you are doing time and over pensionable age it accrues in the bank as a nice little nest egg for when you get out too?
Just checked and prisoners do not get credited with NI contributions.
So no pension for sonny jim when he comes out.
I doubt he has a days NI credits anyway from before he got banged up.
Imagine the mental damage it does, knowing you won't have freedom for 35 years?Fucking hell - i doubt he is sat worried about what pension he gets in 35 years time! At best 50/50 he makes it.
That's Tueart to Toure.Imagine the mental damage it does, knowing you won't have freedom for 35 years?
Many of us knew the lad on the run, infact he used to come to city games with us before switching his alligencies to United and hanging around with them all the time.
Silly thing to be getting involved in for all of them
This guy knows. Ridiculous DJ one minute....Well I grew up in Stockport and knew both of them, Little was a pure bully, loved breaking jaws just for something to do. The other went from being a speccy kid dealing phones and riding round round on mountain bikes to... well you know the rest.
Gold Cup had a really great Sunday football team. Most were Cheshire League Saturday playersMatch day, I used to go in the Gold Cup further up the road when I was about 15 have a couple then walk to the top of Dickenson Rd there was another pub round there (not the Birch Villa on the other side of the road round the back) It had loads of pics of 60's celebrities on the wall, though I never saw any in there. It was the days of the season ticket book and I did not want to bring the whole thing as it was bulky and I was likely to lose it when pissed. Nowt worse than getting to the ground and finding you had the wrong number ticket and having to pay :-(