"The End of the World?" - new article on the blog now

Ah, one defeat after winning 9 in a row and instead of talking about the old days, hooliganism or kits it's back to football and criticism. Besides, that was a post that could have easily gone on here rather than being a blog.

I actually agree on the selections although again you forget to mention the very strong rumours that Lescott had sore knees in Munich. The full-back issue is a bit strange to be honest. I can only think of two things as to why he rotates them every game; the first is he believes he has 4 excellent full backs and the second is that Mancini sees winning the league as far more important than the Champions league or domestic cups. There is an element of truth to both of them and I for one am with him in sacrificing every cup in favour of the league.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I have to take issue with some of that. I said in the blog that Zabaleta did find himself in space on that flank. But he isn't quick enough or a good enough footballer to use the width properly. He stops, puts his foot on it and comes inside.

Maybe I was too simplistic when I said "no width" in the post above.

Zabaleta can no more open a defence than i can open a can of beans with my flaccid member.

Must admit I am with the previous poster in thinking that Zab got the space but not the ball too often. I think he can and does cross well at times. Crossed the last minute winner against Villareal for starters.
 
also can't see how winning the carling cup in Feb would negatively effect our premier league campaign - 3 matches to win a trophy after all (our 2nd in 35 years)....to suggest sacking this off at this stage is pure nonsense and smacks of someone who has forgotten where we have come from....
 
"The End of the World?" - new article on the blog now

jay_mcfc said:
Ah, one defeat after winning 9 in a row and instead of talking about the old days, hooliganism or kits it's back to football and criticism. Besides, that was a post that could have easily gone on here rather than being a blog.

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Sorry, can you clarify this part of your post before I respond.
 
nicko said:
also can't see how winning the carling cup in Feb would negatively effect our premier league campaign - 3 matches to win a trophy after all (our 2nd in 35 years)....to suggest sacking this off at this stage is pure nonsense and smacks of someone who has forgotten where we have come from....

Indeed. It was noticeable how Mourinho kept going on about Chelsea trying to win all 4 trophies in his first season. In the end they didnt but by the time they'd been knocked out of the CL and FA Cup they were well on the way to sowing up the league. It was all about building that winning mentality. Getting knocked out of a cup is always a major downer. And the fewer trophies you're competing for the greater is the pressure to win the ones you're in. In reality the league maybe the be all and end all but Mancini shouldnt be allowing the players to believe that.
 
"The End of the World?" - new article on the blog now

nicko said:
also can't see how winning the carling cup in Feb would negatively effect our premier league campaign - 3 matches to win a trophy after all (our 2nd in 35 years)....to suggest sacking this off at this stage is pure nonsense and smacks of someone who has forgotten where we have come from....

Haha, I remember where we've come from alright. But as Ian brown once said, It's not where your from, it's where you're at. And the extra games that the carling and Europa league give you can affect your title chances. And we have an enormous chance now to win the clubs third league championship, and to paraphrase someone who's been there, knock man united right off their
Fucking perch. I'd sacrifice all three cups in a heartbeat for that .

Of course I'd be there and delighted to win either, but don't underestimate what a seismic leap the title would be for our club. Last year the top four was the step we were ready for, and
Needed, to take. This year it's the big one. The boost and momentum it would give our club would be immeasurable.

I believe it would make us unstoppable
 
jay_mcfc said:
Ah, one defeat after winning 9 in a row and instead of talking about the old days, hooliganism or kits it's back to football and criticism. Besides, that was a post that could have easily gone on here rather than being a blog.

I actually agree on the selections although again you forget to mention the very strong rumours that Lescott had sore knees in Munich. The full-back issue is a bit strange to be honest. I can only think of two things as to why he rotates them every game; the first is he believes he has 4 excellent full backs and the second is that Mancini sees winning the league as far more important than the Champions league or domestic cups. There is an element of truth to both of them and I for one am with him in sacrificing every cup in favour of the league.

I think that this clouts the nail. Mancini has gone on record as giving the Title top priority and that is the only way to explain his team selection.

He took a gamble and lost, but long-term it may turn out to have been the right decision. We need that Title and have a much better chance at it than the Champ's league even if we had won last night.

For me, the main lesson from last night was the importance of pacey wide-men, whether wingers or full-backs, to our attack. At the moment, Clichy and Richards are our only choices and we need more players of this type. We were much easier to play against, with so much width being ignored. DD made this point well.

In previous posts, I have made the point which has been raised on this thread re. the lack of vision to the wings. Over and over again we see it and it frustrates me, so Lord knows what it does to our wide players.
 
Can we just move on please.I was angry and dissapointed last night but ask me 10 yrs ago and I would have took where we are right now.

Bring on the dippers!
 
There seems to be a tendency to blame yesterday's defeal almost entirely on the choice of full backs. But who were the full backs against Bayern?
 
glen quagmire said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Can we just move on please.I was angry and dissapointed last night but ask me 10 yrs ago and I would have took where we are right now.

Bring on the dippers!


Ok i am asking you now. What will you be happy with, in may 2021?

The league
 
nicko said:
glen quagmire said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Can we just move on please.I was angry and dissapointed last night but ask me 10 yrs ago and I would have took where we are right now.

Bring on the dippers!

What the fuck is the relevence of this question? We lost a football match in a tough competition of which this is our first year. Get a grip..


Ok i am asking you now. What will you be happy with, in may 2021?

The league
 
glen quagmire said:
cibaman said:
There seems to be a tendency to blame yesterday's defeal almost entirely on the choice of full backs. But who were the full backs against Bayern?


Ricards and clichy.

I think Bayern are a class above everyone in our group
Different game.
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niP-uHBg-pU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

hmmm..

all I have to say about the general theme to this and other related topics and postings is

"be a man!"

(and no one says that any better than Don Corleone, with a slap to jolt you back into reality too, eheh)
 
cibaman said:
There seems to be a tendency to blame yesterday's defeal almost entirely on the choice of full backs. But who were the full backs against Bayern?

That would be a valid question if Bayern played 3-4-3 and extreme counter attacking football. Does that answer your question?

Let's think about what happened in Naples. We went there with points on Napoli. The important thing was not winning, albeit we knew it would be a tough game against Bayern if we did not win. The most important thing was to not lose. A draw would have been a good result for us and we still would have had our fate in our own hands.

Did we play away tight away style football? If a dwarf team like Apoel from Cyprus can play tight defensive football when required, why can't we? I strongly belive, had we played last years football, we would have gotten a better result.

Looking at the first game at the Eithad, we should have learned the lesson and gone to Naples to beat them at their own game.
 
Comrade Buka said:
The Aguero injury argument simply does not hold. If he was injured, why was he at the bench to begin with? Or did the physio say: He can play from the 81st minute?

Quite often players are deemed unable to run out a game for 90 minutes, but capable of playing a limited role off the bench.
 
I think Dzeko's performance should be highlighted.

He was totally ineffective and Aguero did more in ten minutes than he did during all the game.
 

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