The General Election Thread

[whp.blue]

When bright people are considering voting for UKIP i really do fear for the future of this country

Not as bad as 37% or so of voters saying they will vote for those millionaire socialists that is the labour party. any clown who votes for that twat Milliband should be stabbed in the face

 

[Ducado]

When bright people are considering voting for UKIP i really do fear for the future of this country

Not as bad as 37% or so of voters saying they will vote for those millionaire socialists that is the labour party. any clown who votes for that twat Milliband should be stabbed in the face

No need for language like that!

 

[Rascal]

On what basis would you call them borderline facist?

They remind me of NSDAPs cuddly nationalism of the late 1920s early 1930s. Give them power and who knows what the nutjobs will do. They are Nationalists and and isolationists. Many in the party have links to far right movements such as the EDL and BNP as Skashion proved many times on here.


How anybody with a modicum of sanity thinks that voting UKIP will be a kick in the bollocks to the established parties is in my opinion totally missing the point. A vote for UKIP is a vote for a far right wing party not a protest against anyone. It does appear that some turkeys will vote for christmas.

 

[Rascal]

When bright people are considering voting for UKIP i really do fear for the future of this country

Not as bad as 37% or so of voters saying they will vote for those millionaire socialists that is the labour party. any clown who votes for that twat Milliband should be stabbed in the face

Ah! Debating skills of the far right. Stab someone in the face for having a political opinion thats of the left.

Nice touch pal.

 

[Anonymous]

Could be a seminal election next year as I think a significant number of people are fed up with the dross that passes for leadership and policy among the main parties. Listened to Pienaar's Politics on 5 Live this morning and Chukka Ummuna was talking in meaningless platitudes and Boris Johnson was making shit up as he went along.

I'm seriously thinking of voting UKIP, not because I believe in their policies but because I want to kick the main parties in the balls and give them a wake up call.

So to give the other parties a kick in the bollocks, you want to vote for an extreme, far right wing party.

Be very fucking careful what you wish for.

There is no one else that is the problem

There is no one else so vote fascist?

Didn't we go through a world war where our grandparents fought against fascism?

Sorry if I've come across as rude or argumentative as it's not the intention, just very surprised at how we perceive things. Don't get me wrong, the current way of doing politics does not seem to be working for us at the moment but voting fascism is certainly not the answer.

 

[hilts]

On what basis would you call them borderline facist?

They remind me of NSDAPs cuddly nationalism of the late 1920s early 1930s. Give them power and who knows what the nutjobs will do. They are Nationalists and and isolationists. Many in the party have links to far right movements such as the EDL and BNP as Skashion proved many times on here.


How anybody with a modicum of sanity thinks that voting UKIP will be a kick in the bollocks to the established parties is in my opinion totally missing the point. A vote for UKIP is a vote for a far right wing party not a protest against anyone. It does appear that some turkeys will vote for christmas.

Why is it not a protest against anyone?, your logic seems strange at best, are you saying a protest vote can only be done by the insane or stupid?

 

[Ducado]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

 

[hilts]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

I have even heard many labour voters call tories facists, and in the interest of fairness the left on here do get called commies and marxist

Rasc does seem to believe it though

 

[Ducado]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

I have even heard many labour voters call tories facists, and in the interest of fairness the left on here do get called commies and marxist

Rasc does seem to believe it though

I do think that there is a hint of envy rather than fear for the left, that no left wing party has managed to capture the public mood as much as UKIP have and in many way the left have failed to truly engage with their core vote

 

[Anonymous]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

Does the rhetoric they use not alarm you in anyway shape or form?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

Does the rhetoric they use not alarm you in anyway shape or form?

Here's their policies on the economy:

Repairing the UK Economy

– UKIP will increase personal allowance to the level of full-time minimum wage earnings (approx £13,500 by next election).

– Inheritance tax will be abolished.

– We will introduce a 35p income tax rate between £42,285 and £55,000, whereupon the 40p rate becomes payable.

– UKIP will set up a Treasury Commission to design a turnover tax to ensure big businesses pay a minimum floor rate of tax as a proportion of their UK turnover.

There's at least 2 of those that should appeal to Rascal, who was moaning about the last one only the other day.

 

[Rascal]

On what basis would you call them borderline facist?

They remind me of NSDAPs cuddly nationalism of the late 1920s early 1930s. Give them power and who knows what the nutjobs will do. They are Nationalists and and isolationists. Many in the party have links to far right movements such as the EDL and BNP as Skashion proved many times on here.


How anybody with a modicum of sanity thinks that voting UKIP will be a kick in the bollocks to the established parties is in my opinion totally missing the point. A vote for UKIP is a vote for a far right wing party not a protest against anyone. It does appear that some turkeys will vote for christmas.

Why is it not a protest against anyone?, your logic seems strange at best, are you saying a protest vote can only be done by the insane or stupid?

We must learn the lessons of history as history has this ability to keep repeating itself.

Voting for extreme parties to protest is in my opinion idiotic and damaging to any democracy. Does it not speak volumes that i would rather everyone in the country vote Tory than 1 person vote UKIP

 

[hilts]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

Does the rhetoric they use not alarm you in anyway shape or form?

They could be goose marching up the high st for all i care they ain't getting elected, some should have a little bit more faith in the general public

The main parties have been dodging Eu/immigration for years and it has come back to bite them on the arse, add to that the general apathy towards them, i really cannot see a downside to this

 

[Damocles]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

That's not what he said, he said that they were borderline fascists not that they are a fascist party.

You could claim that they have a nationalist and isolationist streak within them, as well as a strong military commitment and a desire to become economically self sufficient - all tenets of fascism

 

[Anonymous]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

Does the rhetoric they use not alarm you in anyway shape or form?

Here's their policies on the economy:

Repairing the UK Economy

– UKIP will increase personal allowance to the level of full-time minimum wage earnings (approx £13,500 by next election).

– Inheritance tax will be abolished.

– We will introduce a 35p income tax rate between £42,285 and £55,000, whereupon the 40p rate becomes payable.

– UKIP will set up a Treasury Commission to design a turnover tax to ensure big businesses pay a minimum floor rate of tax as a proportion of their UK turnover.

There's at least 2 of those that should appeal to Rascal, who was moaning about the last one only the other day.

None of it seemingly costed but I'm no expert when it comes to the economy. Then again there was a bloke with a funny rash who sorted out his countries economy before embarking on a psychotic orgy of destruction and violence.

So, back to the fascism part... the foreigners are the cause of all society's ills stuff they trot out. No where in history have I heard that before?

Answers on a postcard.

Call me a flapper, a reactionary or a panic-merchant but fuck me everything I've seen so far suggest we are sleepwalking toward a very shitty place with that lot and I cannot believe the posters I've always thought were pretty clever seem to be falling for this bullshit.

Either that or you're all fishing.

 

[Ducado]

Does the rhetoric they use not alarm you in anyway shape or form?

Here's their policies on the economy:

Repairing the UK Economy

– UKIP will increase personal allowance to the level of full-time minimum wage earnings (approx £13,500 by next election).

– Inheritance tax will be abolished.

– We will introduce a 35p income tax rate between £42,285 and £55,000, whereupon the 40p rate becomes payable.

– UKIP will set up a Treasury Commission to design a turnover tax to ensure big businesses pay a minimum floor rate of tax as a proportion of their UK turnover.

There's at least 2 of those that should appeal to Rascal, who was moaning about the last one only the other day.

None of it seemingly costed but I'm no expert when it comes to the economy. Then again there was a bloke with a funny rash who sorted out his countries economy before embarking on a psychotic orgy of destruction and violence.

So, back to the fascism part... the foreigners are the cause of all society's ills stuff they trot out. No where in history have I heard that before?

Answers on a postcard.

Call me a flapper, a reactionary or a panic-merchant but fuck me everything I've seen so far suggest we are sleepwalking toward a very shitty place with that lot and I cannot believe the posters I've always thought were pretty clever seem to be falling for this bullshit.

Either that or you're all fishing.

Have they said that foreigners are the cause of all ills?

 

[Anonymous]

Here's their policies on the economy:


There's at least 2 of those that should appeal to Rascal, who was moaning about the last one only the other day.

None of it seemingly costed but I'm no expert when it comes to the economy. Then again there was a bloke with a funny rash who sorted out his countries economy before embarking on a psychotic orgy of destruction and violence.

So, back to the fascism part... the foreigners are the cause of all society's ills stuff they trot out. No where in history have I heard that before?

Answers on a postcard.

Call me a flapper, a reactionary or a panic-merchant but fuck me everything I've seen so far suggest we are sleepwalking toward a very shitty place with that lot and I cannot believe the posters I've always thought were pretty clever seem to be falling for this bullshit.

Either that or you're all fishing.

Have they said that foreigners are the cause of all ills?

No they haven't. They have explicitly said they want to cuddle all foreigners and invite them round for tea and scones.

I'm out.

 

[Rascal]

I am interested in what way UKIP is a Fascist party? They are certainley a right wing populist party but not a Fascist party it's a word often banded about by the left normally meaning anyone who is more right wing than the Tories , can the left wing posters educate me on this

Does the rhetoric they use not alarm you in anyway shape or form?

Here's their policies on the economy:

Repairing the UK Economy

– UKIP will increase personal allowance to the level of full-time minimum wage earnings (approx £13,500 by next election).

– Inheritance tax will be abolished.

– We will introduce a 35p income tax rate between £42,285 and £55,000, whereupon the 40p rate becomes payable.

– UKIP will set up a Treasury Commission to design a turnover tax to ensure big businesses pay a minimum floor rate of tax as a proportion of their UK turnover.

There's at least 2 of those that should appeal to Rascal, who was moaning about the last one only the other day.

Parts of every parties manifesto including the Monster Raving Looney party would probably appeal to my sensebilities, but when you judge the package as a whole i find UKIP abhorrent.

Spend 10 minutes on twatter looking at twats from UKIP members and they make the EDL look like a kids party at Macdonalds. Looking at Twatter the average UKIP member is not concerned about a sensible proposal all they bang on about is Immigration and the EU and the overwhelming majority of stuff you see is just fucking bollow they have nicked off the Britain first website claiming this that and the other rubbish they go on and on about.

 

[hgblue]

Finally those of us who are opposed to the creation of a European superstate and are disillusioned by the state of politics in general in this country have someone to vote for. The three main parties basically stuck two fingers up at the majority of British people who were uncomfortable with the direction of travel of the EU, and gave away more and more sovereignty without our consent, due to the fact that they knew we had no anti-EU party to vote for. How they chuckled as they congratulated themselves with their smug superiority, well they're not laughing now, and I predict they won't be laughing after the next General Election.

 

[another generation]

Here's their policies on the economy:

– UKIP will increase personal allowance to the level of full-time minimum wage earnings (approx £13,500 by next election).

Question to all from one with a genuine interest in politics, but no idea of economics!

How can any party expect to have enough in the coffers by raising the threshold of the personal allowance? Many people are currently paid less than a living wage, yet are supposed to be grateful for even having a job. As a part-time worker on a shite salary, I wonder if I'll ever see the day when I earn enough to pay tax. Raising the threshold will mean I have more money for myself, but how can the country earn enough?