The General Election Thread

[union city blue]

No it won't.

Sinn Fein don't vote. The speaker doesn't vote. The DUP won't be going against most things, nor UKIP.

They'll pass most things by a good dozen.

It will keep Cameron honest though.

If you only knew what they have planned for public services in this country I don't think you would be so happy their are cuts on the way the like of which have never been seen before, there will be social breakdown of course they will have row back like they had to last time they tried this, the good news is if they hold good they will lose the next election

Are you Privy to Conservative cabinet meetings then? and I wonder why you only warn us now surely you should have mentioned this before and told everyone to vote labour to protect the Nation you did Vote Labour didn't you?

Your pathetic answer "are you privy to Conservative cabinet meetings then" just shows what an ill-informed fuckwit you really are.

Funding, particularly for local government is projected at least two years in advance and most Councils set their budgets accordingly. I know of one major council in the North West - a Labour council that has been one of the hardest hit in the country - which has forecast that with the planned reduction in funding, by 2017/18 it will not even have sufficient funding for those services it is legally obliged to provide.
It will effectively only be able to deliver some adult social care and refuse collection and nothing else.

But of course you don't give a single fuck about that do you? It's only poor people and overpaid, lazy public sector workers who will suffer and you will be just fine, so fuck everyone else. You selfish ****.

 

[worsleyweb]

If you only knew what they have planned for public services in this country I don't think you would be so happy their are cuts on the way the like of which have never been seen before, there will be social breakdown of course they will have row back like they had to last time they tried this, the good news is if they hold good they will lose the next election

Are you Privy to Conservative cabinet meetings then? and I wonder why you only warn us now surely you should have mentioned this before and told everyone to vote labour to protect the Nation you did Vote Labour didn't you?

Your pathetic answer "are you privy to Conservative cabinet meetings then" just shows what an ill-informed fuckwit you really are.

Funding, particularly for local government is projected at least two years in advance and most Councils set their budgets accordingly. I know of one major council in the North West - a Labour council that has been one of the hardest hit in the country - which has forecast that with the planned reduction in funding, by 2017/18 it will not even have sufficient funding for those services it is legally obliged to provide.
It will effectively only be able to deliver some adult social care and refuse collection and nothing else.

But of course you don't give a single fuck about that do you? It's only poor people and overpaid, lazy public sector workers who will suffer and you will be just fine, so fuck everyone else. You selfish c**t.

Lets see if the mods let that that vile abuse and frankly utter nonsense pass???

 

[M18CTID]

Since most politicians are self-serving c*nts in my experience I''m not too concerned either way. If you're middle class you're going to get clobbered whoever gets in.

As a public sector employee we've been asked to predict what would happen to my Department following cuts of 20,30 and 40%. So major public sector cuts are a certainty. That shouldn't concern me because there are huge areas of bureaucracy and waste.

What does concern me is that where the cuts fall is being left to the bureaucrats to decide. Not being turkeys voting for Christmas, they naturally decide that cuts should be in the frontline, not amongst the huge swathes of managers and consultants.

A good post and one I agree with. Cut all the needless jobs in the public sector and you could probably save enough money to keep all frontline services intact AND give those on the frontline a decent pay rise to boot.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Having just spent over an hour in the car, it gave me time to think about the result and I think there are some interesting things have come out of it.

Firstly Sturgeon should be delighted, not just because of the number of seats won but also because she won't have to risk screwing up as part of a coalition or otherwise supporting a minority Labour government.

Secondly, it could actually make life more difficult for Cameron having a small overall majority than it was in coalition. In reality, the party is a coalition with the left of the party as polar opposites to the right on many key issues. Previously the LibDem MP's shored up the left and gave Cameron a ready made excuse when he didn't have freedom of action. Now, the Tory right will be baying for blood and they have the power to force the agenda. I've never really got Cameron but I suspect he's centre/left of centre at heart. He's going to find it quite uncomfortable over the next few years if so.

Another interesting thing is that the SNP fought on an avowedly left wing platform and triumphed whereas Labour sort of fought on a leftist platform and failed miserably. Was that a purely Scottish factor or should they have been more upfront?

It was also extremely interesting that UKIP took a lot of votes from Labour, which tends to support the view expressed on here my some of us that many Labour supporters are actually quite reactionary and right wing.

Finally, what's the future for the LibDems? In the same way that UKIP have taken right wing votes off the Labour party, should they move firmly to the left and target the left wing voters in the Labour party, effectively becoming the English version of the SNP. After all, it worked in Scotland.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Milliband to stand down apparently.

 

[Ducado]

Since most politicians are self-serving c*nts in my experience I''m not too concerned either way. If you're middle class you're going to get clobbered whoever gets in.

As a public sector employee we've been asked to predict what would happen to my Department following cuts of 20,30 and 40%. So major public sector cuts are a certainty. That shouldn't concern me because there are huge areas of bureaucracy and waste.

What does concern me is that where the cuts fall is being left to the bureaucrats to decide. Not being turkeys voting for Christmas, they naturally decide that cuts should be in the frontline, not amongst the huge swathes of managers and consultants.

Can you imagine how much waste was in the public sector ten years ago?

Call me Dave has promised £1 in every £10 will be saved every year , time to starve the bloated beast.

Last time they pulled that stunt the country almost collapsed and it ended up costing them more to put it right, and that was a Tory government under Thatcher so there are huge risks for them in doing so

 

[tonea2003]

looking at actual votes cast and for whom

the PR mob are going to be in full swing

i must say the disparity between SNP & UKIP seats won and the actual number of votes cast for each is stark in the extreme

 

[M18CTID]

If you only knew what they have planned for public services in this country I don't think you would be so happy their are cuts on the way the like of which have never been seen before, there will be social breakdown of course they will have row back like they had to last time they tried this, the good news is if they hold good they will lose the next election

Are you Privy to Conservative cabinet meetings then? and I wonder why you only warn us now surely you should have mentioned this before and told everyone to vote labour to protect the Nation you did Vote Labour didn't you?

Your pathetic answer "are you privy to Conservative cabinet meetings then" just shows what an ill-informed fuckwit you really are.

Funding, particularly for local government is projected at least two years in advance and most Councils set their budgets accordingly. I know of one major council in the North West - a Labour council that has been one of the hardest hit in the country - which has forecast that with the planned reduction in funding, by 2017/18 it will not even have sufficient funding for those services it is legally obliged to provide.
It will effectively only be able to deliver some adult social care and refuse collection and nothing else.

But of course you don't give a single fuck about that do you? It's only poor people and overpaid, lazy public sector workers who will suffer and you will be just fine, so fuck everyone else. You selfish c**t.

That's possibly the most hypocritical post I've seen on this whole thread.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

In the 'Best squeeze' competition, foxy Sam Cam wins hands down. Ed's Mrs looks weirder than him, although Nick '8 seats' Clegg's Mrs isn't too shabby.

 

[Ducado]

Having just spent over an hour in the car, it gave me time to think about the result and I think there are some interesting things have come out of it.

Firstly Sturgeon should be delighted, not just because of the number of seats won but also because she won't have to risk screwing up as part of a coalition or otherwise supporting a minority Labour government.

Secondly, it could actually make life more difficult for Cameron having a small overall majority than it was in coalition. In reality, the party is a coalition with the left of the party as polar opposites to the right on many key issues. Previously the LibDem MP's shored up the left and gave Cameron a ready made excuse when he didn't have freedom of action. Now, the Tory right will be baying for blood and they have the power to force the agenda. I've never really got Cameron but I suspect he's centre/left of centre at heart. He's going to find it quite uncomfortable over the next few years if so.

Another interesting thing is that the SNP fought on an avowedly left wing platform and triumphed whereas Labour sort of fought on a leftist platform and failed miserably. Was that a purely Scottish factor or should they have been more upfront?

It was also extremely interesting that UKIP took a lot of votes from Labour, which tends to support the view expressed on here my some of us that many Labour supporters are actually quite reactionary and right wing.

Finally, what's the future for the LibDems? In the same way that UKIP have taken right wing votes off the Labour party, should they move firmly to the left and target the left wing voters in the Labour party, effectively becoming the English version of the SNP. After all, it worked in Scotland.

It seems that many have forgotten how hard it was for Major to govern there are some serious enough fault lines in the Tory party