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[Don Karleone]

But as professionally experienced people have confirmed, he’s not responding to the requests to drop the knife so he’s not incapacitated. He still had hold of it and refusing to obey the command to release it. He’s trying to murder people and they are trying to neutralise the threat, shooting him would have been within normal protocol at the time but they didn’t have guns, thankfully as I want him to stand trial.

He was on the prevent watchlist and there were concerns about him prior to the attack. A terror group linked to Iran have claimed involvement. Whether the latter part is true we will see but he’s travelled to that synagogue to specifically attack people leaving it.

The man he stabbed earlier was in Southwark, which is nowhere near Golders Green, so I don’t think there’s much doubt he specifically travelled there for his targets.

The reason he stabbed the other poor bloke earlier will come out in the wash, maybe it was a separate argument that triggered the loon?

With regards to it being in the news, an attack on people because of their race and religion, being caught in broad daylight on someone’s iPhone, is going to grab news. Stabbings happen in London all the time and don’t make the national headlines, but it’s the motivation that makes it more newsworthy.

The first stabbing in Southwark is being reported on more as the details emerge and they realise it was the same person.

My view is protests should be allowed. I’ve just walked past a bunch of actual communists in St Peter’s Square in town earlier. I chuckled at their naivety but good luck to them, they’re allowed to protest. If they started calling for violence then that’s when the government should intervene, but not until then.

He had been tasered. What happens when people are electrocuted? Is it MET policy to kick people suspected of holding a bomb?

He's a mentally ill guy who tried to kill 3 people. Race or religion shouldn't come into it until the motive is categorically known. It is now being used to have a go at the leader of the largest left-leaning party before the local elections. He should've said, "Fuck it, I stand by what I retweeted".

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

The guy was already incapacitated. I don't agree with kicking mentally ill people in the head.

The fact that he called it an antisemitic attack as well is doing my head in. Three people were attacked, which is being conveniently glossed over by our fearless media. Still, it gives the Government an excuse to crack down even more on the protests.

Ffs he’d just stabbed two innocent people, who knew what he was going to do next? I’d have kicked his head into the middle of next week.

 

[Don Karleone]

Very strange take, unless you are using it for a different agenda.

The police didn’t know he was mentally ill, what they seen was a man trying to to kill two people. In fact, it’s that excuse is the most preposterous take on the situation that you can get.

As for your ‘anti-Semitic’ nonsense, this was 2 British people and should have absolutely nothing to do with any response to the actions that took place at the time, or after.

Please don’t respond, I’m now fully conversant with your agenda.

Get back to me when you give a fuck about the other person this guy attacked. Ta

 

[Don Karleone]

Didn't even get a mention at the vigil ....



Is it Muslims don't count .... imagine that as a book title?

I feel like I'm going insane. For any MET police reading this, I don't mean literally.

 

[mackenzie]

Very strange take, unless you are using it for a different agenda.

The police didn’t know he was mentally ill, what they seen was a man trying to to kill two people. In fact, it’s that excuse is the most preposterous take on the situation that you can get.

As for your ‘anti-Semitic’ nonsense, this was 2 British people and should have absolutely nothing to do with any response to the actions that took place at the time, or after.

Please don’t respond, I’m now fully conversant with your agenda.

I'm not sure what some of the public want of the Police anymore.
Maybe a psychiatric assessment of any perpetrator whilst they inflict violence upon their victims?
Or perhaps a Tik Tok dance?

I know what I want...a Police force that protects those who are at risk of harm.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Very strange take, unless you are using it for a different agenda.

The police didn’t know he was mentally ill, what they seen was a man trying to to kill two people. In fact, it’s that excuse is the most preposterous take on the situation that you can get.

As for your ‘anti-Semitic’ nonsense, this was 2 British people and should have absolutely nothing to do with any response to the actions that took place at the time, or after.

Please don’t respond, I’m now fully conversant with your agenda.

I’ve no idea what his agenda is, I only know he talks some absolute shite.

 

[xmusampa]

He had been tasered. What happens when people are electrocuted? Is it MET policy to kick people suspected of holding a bomb?

He's a mentally ill guy who tried to kill 3 people. Race or religion shouldn't come into it until the motive is categorically known. It is now being used to have a go at the leader of the largest left-leaning party before the local elections. He should've said, "Fuck it, I stand by what I retweeted".

I’ve witnessed people attacking police who were tapered and were hardly incapacitated. In a fight or flight situation where you can’t run away as in a policeman s job then almost anything goes in my opinion.once they’d got knife off him and he was subdued they stopped so no problem with police on this one. Most of the luvvies who bang on about heavy handedness of the police are the first to complain hurty words never mind serious threats to life .

 

[Don Karleone]

I’ve no idea what his agenda is, I only know he talks some absolute shite.

I value the two people in Golders Green the same as the person in Southwark. I'm now very aware that some people on here feel differently.

If the other thread gets reopened, I'll reply in there.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

I value the two people in Golders Green the same as the person in Southwark. I'm now very aware that some people on here feel differently.

If the other thread gets reopened, I'll reply in there.

You seem to value murderous crackpots with knives more. Sort your head out.

 

[Ban-jani]

He had been tasered. What happens when people are electrocuted? Is it MET policy to kick people suspected of holding a bomb?

He's a mentally ill guy who tried to kill 3 people. Race or religion shouldn't come into it until the motive is categorically known. It is now being used to have a go at the leader of the largest left-leaning party before the local elections. He should've said, "Fuck it, I stand by what I retweeted".

Being tasered doesn’t automatically make you incapacitated, there’s dozens of videos on YouTube of people being tasered by police and continuing to stand and fight. He still had control of the knife, the next step is to put him out of action, which they did with what they had (very little).

It’s very easy to not have to deal with the circumstances they did and think “well I’d have done x”. Their bravery is the reason there aren’t deaths.

Mentally ill is quite a broad spectrum of conditions and I don’t think they had a chance to perform a triage of what he was suffering from, whilst he was running around trying (successfully) to stab people. There are people that are obviously mentally ill to the eye and others that have severe conditions that flare up and make them commit very violent acts occasionally, otherwise seeming normal.

Race and religion has come into it because he specifically travelled 10 miles across London to wait for people to leave a synagogue, whilst already being listed as a terrorist threat. We will hopefully find out why he stabbed Ishmael Hussein earlier, as I say, it could have been, and I would say is likely, over something unrelated.

Polanski’s choice to retweet what he did was not good as I’ve said, his sympathies seemed to be with the attacker and not the victims, he couldn’t even bring himself to self to say Jews were the victims, despite being of Jewish descent himself.

It doesn’t matter if he’s left leaning, right leaning, centre ground or whatever, wrong is wrong.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Being tasered doesn’t automatically make you incapacitated, there’s dozens of videos on YouTube of people being tasered by police and continuing to stand and fight. He still had control of the knife, the next step is to put him out of action, which they did with what they had (very little).

It’s very easy to not have to deal with the circumstances they did and think “well I’d have done x”. Their bravery is the reason there aren’t deaths.

Mentally ill is quite a broad spectrum of conditions and I don’t think they had a chance to perform a triage of what he was suffering from, whilst he was running around trying (successfully) to stab people. There are people that are obviously mentally ill to the eye and others that have severe conditions that flare up and make them commit very violent acts occasionally, otherwise seeming normal.

Race and religion has come into it because he specifically travelled 10 miles across London to wait for people to leave a synagogue, whilst already being listed as a terrorist threat. We will hopefully find out why he stabbed Ishmael Hussein earlier, as I say, it could have been, and I would say is likely, over something unrelated.

Polanski’s choice to retweet what he did was not good as I’ve said, his sympathies seemed to be with the attacker and not the victims, he couldn’t even bring himself to self to say Jews were the victims, despite being of Jewish descent himself.

It doesn’t matter if he’s left leaning, right leaning, centre ground or whatever, wrong is wrong.

If everyone could take on board your last sentence the world would be a much better place.

 

[Postman Pep]

The guy was already incapacitated. I don't agree with kicking mentally ill people in the head.

I totally get the desire for a knife wielding maniac to get a good shoeing. What I don't get is this insistence that there was no other way to disarm him. The clue is in the language.

Get back to me when you give a fuck about the other person this guy attacked.

Looks like it's turning into the clown car version of the Corbyn era.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Maybe they should have got their iPads out and done an online risk assessment before tackling him?

 

[Bluesince1979]

The guy was already incapacitated. I don't agree with kicking mentally ill people in the head.

The fact that he called it an antisemitic attack as well is doing my head in. Three people were attacked, which is being conveniently glossed over by our fearless media. Still, it gives the Government an excuse to crack down even more on the protests.

Fuck me
What a knob

 

[mackenzie]

And Polanski has now hit back at Starmer by saying "Today the prime minister uses his office to attack the only Jewish party leader to score political points."

This is what politics has come to. What the hell is the matter with these people?
It's like the sodding school playground.

That reply isn't even worthy of trying to get your head around it.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Get back to me when you give a fuck about the other person this guy attacked. Ta

Fuck me, you distract with that? I have the same view whoever he attacked, it is horrendous to see this, made even worse that the system knew about the individuals issues.

As I said, you’ve confirmed your agenda.

Fucking ‘Ta’!

*shakes head and walks away*

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I totally get the desire for a knife wielding maniac to get a good shoeing. What I don't get is this insistence that there was no other way to disarm him. The clue is in the language.

Looks like it's turning into the clown car version of the Corbyn era.

Well done, show your colours and blame it on the ‘Corbyn’ haters.

I understand that you have to attach yourself to someone, but don’t defend something that he himself has now apologised for.

 

[Kinkybyname]

fk me there are some precious Kuntz on here... glad they're not the ones that have to dive in when needed, sit there stoking their fkn bearded chins like a late-night C4 philosophy debate

 

[west didsblue]

The guy was already incapacitated. I don't agree with kicking mentally ill people in the head.

The fact that he called it an antisemitic attack as well is doing my head in. Three people were attacked, which is being conveniently glossed over by our fearless media. Still, it gives the Government an excuse to crack down even more on the protests.

The third person attacked, Ishmail Hussein, was an acquaintance of the attacker and it happened in his flat. The fact that the Golders Green attacks were random makes them more shocking, caught on camera, and therefore newsworthy. If you don’t understand that you’re not trying very hard.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

fk me there are some precious Kuntz on here... glad they're not the ones that have to dive in when needed, sit there stoking their fkn bearded chins like a late-night C4 philosophy debate

I’m sure they would do exactly the same, and more, for their family. The problem is, certain people want to criticise because of political affiliation.

So, let’s get back to politics, Green’s policies are to take us out of NATO and spend less on Defence. Does anybody see that as a decent policy that would protect one of the the top economic countries?

I wasn’t hoping for much from the Green Party, but wanted cogent policies that would challenge the main parties. We haven’t got that, we’ve just have got what Reform offers, on the opposite end.