The Hidden Truth of Rooney's International Goals.

Josh Blue said:
Markt85 said:
MCC said:
Interesting stats. Granny Shagger is not the messiah but he`s the best that we have got.

here's another interesting stat ... since his England Debut ... Rooney is our top goalscorer


Come on Mark he was shit tonight.

he seems to be arguing for argument sakes tonight.

probs just upset we slagged off his precious scotty.
 
Josh Blue said:
Markt85 said:
MCC said:
Interesting stats. Granny Shagger is not the messiah but he`s the best that we have got.

here's another interesting stat ... since his England Debut ... Rooney is our top goalscorer


Come on Mark he was shit tonight.

agree, but he scored the winner - can argue Ballotelli is shit for most games but he will then pop up with a goal

he needed to play tonight, hes now got his fitness , confidence and a goal behind him - he will have a much better game v Italy
 
Coldcase said:
Blue2112 said:
Coldcase said:
Been lurking on here a while, seems quite decent banter.

Come on, if you'd have brought him when it looked like you were going too, you'd have been made up.

As I posted previously though, I don't like him( 3 weeks every major championship, and that's only because I cheer on fucking Lescott( fucking cock) and Gerrard)
But he is slightly English and our only real hope, although to be fair, I'd like to see Joe Hart notch a winner or sign for Everton.

The banter is decent but its this simple, some blues put our cross town rivalry to one side and some of us can't/don't/won't. I'm one of the latter and nothing in God's green country could ever make me change that opinion. I accept there's City player's in the team but for the life of me I just cannot ever support a team with rags that I abuse every other week. Just can't do it. Don't wish em any ill will in all honesty and its out of my hands whether they win or they don't and if they do then great for the City lads and if they don't then tough for the City lads but I feel no connection whatsoever to any England national team. And Ive felt that way since I was a kid, City players or no City players. Because ultimately it ain't City and it ain't sky blue.




So, if you signed a united player, who was fucking mint.How would you feel?

Gutted? Or glad?

Say, In the summer you managed to sign Carrick, how would you feel, knowing a untied player had improved your team?











wait for it...........

In my first reply I missed this bit off....How the hell would Carrick improve this City side apart from making our reserve squad stronger.
 
Markt85 said:
MCC said:
Blue2112 said:
Sick to fucking death of hearing about the return of the saviour, ''he's got a great reception from the England fans in the corner - he's hungry for it - great pass from Rooney - nobody wants to score more'' and of course always said with a growl in your voice ''Roooooney'' everytime he's within 20yards of the fucking ball. No doubt he'll bang an hat trick tonight but for the rercord his Engerland goalscoring record for a supposedly world class striker is fucking shite. Only 2 goals against what I would consider to be the top ranked nations v Holland and Argentina 6/7 years ago now. He's scored against 3 of the middle ranked national teams in Denmark, Croatia and Russia and the rest have come against the worst of the worst. Don't let the facts spoil a good story though.

74 Appearances - 28 Goals

2003 - 3 Goals v Macedonia, Litchenstein and Denmark.
2004 - 6 Goals v Iceland (2) Switzerland (2) and Croatia (2)
2005 - 2 Goals v Denmark and Argentina
2006 - 1 Goal v Holland
2007 - 2 Goals v Estonia and Russia
2008 - 5 Goals v Croatia, Kazakhstan (2) and Belarus (2)
2009 - 6 Goals v Slovakia (2) Kazakhstan, Andorra (2) and Croatia
2010 - 1 Goal v Switzerland
2011 - 2 Goals v Bulgaria (2)
2012 - 0 Goals to date.

Interesting stats. Granny Shagger is not the messiah but he`s the best that we have got.

here's another interesting stat ... since his England Debut ... Rooney is our top goalscorer

With the minutes he's played as the main striker, against more often than not poor opposition (friendlies and qualifiers) He surely should have more than 29 goals? Peter Crouch has 22 in 44 and most of his games he only came on for the last 10/15 mins!
 
Blue2112 said:
Coldcase said:
Blue2112 said:
The banter is decent but its this simple, some blues put our cross town rivalry to one side and some of us can't/don't/won't. I'm one of the latter and nothing in God's green country could ever make me change that opinion. I accept there's City player's in the team but for the life of me I just cannot ever support a team with rags that I abuse every other week. Just can't do it. Don't wish em any ill will in all honesty and its out of my hands whether they win or they don't and if they do then great for the City lads and if they don't then tough for the City lads but I feel no connection whatsoever to any England national team. And Ive felt that way since I was a kid, City players or no City players. Because ultimately it ain't City and it ain't sky blue.




So, if you signed a united player, who was fucking mint.How would you feel?

Gutted? Or glad?

Say, In the summer you managed to sign Carrick, how would you feel, knowing a untied player had improved your team?











wait for it...........

In my first reply I missed this bit off....How the hell would Carrick improve this City side apart from making our reserve squad stronger.


There it is.
 
Markt85 said:
Josh Blue said:
Markt85 said:
here's another interesting stat ... since his England Debut ... Rooney is our top goalscorer


Come on Mark he was shit tonight.

agree, but he scored the winner - can argue Ballotelli is shit for most games but he will then pop up with a goal

he needed to play tonight, hes now got his fitness , confidence and a goal behind him - he will have a much better game v Italy

He needs to have a much better game. He was absolutely rubbish last night. My teenage daughter could have scored the goal he did. His overall game was very, very poor. All hype - 100%
 
Rooney is a pretty mercurial player, his level of performance is not as consistent as the best players in the game for Utd. or England. Having said that when he does play well his performance is at a far higher level than the likes of Crouch. He plays for the second best team in thecountry and is their main man and best player. If it was not for Rooney Utd would have been way behind us last season. Crouch is one of Stokes better players.
Yesterday his play was not great but he was still in position at the right times and his movement was good, no England manager in their right mind would leave Rooney out of the team at the moment he has just played nearly a full match and may well improve next match.
 
MCC said:
Blue2112 said:
Sick to fucking death of hearing about the return of the saviour, ''he's got a great reception from the England fans in the corner - he's hungry for it - great pass from Rooney - nobody wants to score more'' and of course always said with a growl in your voice ''Roooooney'' everytime he's within 20yards of the fucking ball. No doubt he'll bang an hat trick tonight but for the rercord his Engerland goalscoring record for a supposedly world class striker is fucking shite. Only 2 goals against what I would consider to be the top ranked nations v Holland and Argentina 6/7 years ago now. He's scored against 3 of the middle ranked national teams in Denmark, Croatia and Russia and the rest have come against the worst of the worst. Don't let the facts spoil a good story though.

74 Appearances - 28 Goals

2003 - 3 Goals v Macedonia, Litchenstein and Denmark.
2004 - 6 Goals v Iceland (2) Switzerland (2) and Croatia (2)
2005 - 2 Goals v Denmark and Argentina
2006 - 1 Goal v Holland
2007 - 2 Goals v Estonia and Russia
2008 - 5 Goals v Croatia, Kazakhstan (2) and Belarus (2)
2009 - 6 Goals v Slovakia (2) Kazakhstan, Andorra (2) and Croatia
2010 - 1 Goal v Switzerland
2011 - 2 Goals v Bulgaria (2)
2012 - 0 Goals to date.

Interesting stats. Granny Shagger is not the messiah but he`s the best that we have got.

Interesting stats indeed. Considering he plays for a country which is regularly in the top 10, the teams listed above are the calibre of teams England tend to meet.

Other interesting facts below:

Friendlies 26 (8)
World Cup 8 (0)
World Cup Qualifiers 16 (9)
Euro Championships 5 (5)
Euro Champs Qualifiers 19 (7)

Bar the World Cup, which, we know he hasn't faired well in, his goalscoring record in competitive matches compared to friendlies is quite good. He has 5 in 5 in the European Championships which is a great ratio to have and 16 in 35 combined qualifying matches is also quite impressive.

Uncompetitive Record: 26/8
Competitive Record: 48/21

That tells me that he scores in the more important games, World Cup aside.

We're not going to be playing Holland, Brazil, Germany & Spain every year are we?

Yes he's a twat and an odious creature. But he's a damn good player (when on form) and I'd take 1-0's all the way to glory in this competition via shit 2yrd headers if thats what it takes.

If he smashed one in from 30yrds he wouldn't get any credit because people's judgement of him as a person, on here anyway, clouds their judgement of him as a player.

Daft really.
 
dont really care who he plays for when he has an england shirt on, as long as he plays well.
 

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