The Labour Government

[kaz7]

There are lots of nurses from the phillipines working in my nearest big hospital , always happy and wanting to help over and above

 

[TinFoilHat]

Seems Keith has put the attack on our Lou.

Not happy with her resigning it seems Sky is trying to ruin her full stop. They didn't bat an eyelid when Boris and his cabinet of cunts were literally screwing us all over COVID.

Too left wing for him.

 

[west didsblue]

He also sold a lot of our gold reserves at bottom price, and they went skywards afterwards.

There’s also a counter argument that the sale was a positive decision in that gold had been under-performing for years and was paying no dividends. The sale enabled the government to pay off a fair chunk of the national debt and keep repayment interest down on the remainder.
Would have been handy having it now with gold at £2000 an ounce though.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

He also sold a lot of our gold reserves at bottom price, and they went skywards afterwards.

He sold a lot less than the Heath Government did ... and at a much better price... but you dont hear about that do you?

 

[Dereck Jeffries 3 wd]

Never said it was positive, its only positive if you get migrants with the skills the country needs which I think is what the studies show. The idea that we welcome everyone with open arms because a number of them might be a doctor or scientist is misguided.

In any normal market, all of the roles we cant fill in things like the care sector should drive up salaries until they become attractive to people, but instead we have gone down the route of suppressing wage growth in lower skilled roles in favour of importing cheap labour. That cheap labour, particularly from the poorer parts of the developing world brings their dependants who then need supporting and are entitled to benefits along with the cost of housing, schooling etc. as the main wage earner is employed.

You then have someone who from UK PLC point of view financially providing a net negative contribution, whilst also having to pay to support the UK resident who decides that the job doesn't pay enough to warrant coming off benefits and into work. All of which causes more pressure on housing, health care, education etc.

as far as I am concerned;
Wherever these people are ( costing us a fortune)
Get rid immediately if they can’t speak English, no passports, no skills needed get interviewed by people who know the skills needed, obviously any with bad records.
Simple ( any goody goody who can’t look after them, tell them to do one)

 

[Saddleworth2]

Very true we area land of immigrants and undoubtedly better for it, however there is clearly a rate at which immigration reaches a point where successful integration is not possible. I would suggest that anyone who thinks we are capable of successfully integrating the current number of people coming in is living in cloud cukkooland. The facts simply do not back up this statement.

If these recently released numbers are sustainable why is the new government criticising them?

And if you still think they are sustainable, can I ask what do you think is the maximum level/ rate of immigration above which integration would cause problems, if you think therenis such a level? I would suggest that rate is about 50,000 per annum, primarilly based on our capacity to build housing and the current backlog in this area.

Current numbers are the equivalent of a larger city than Leeds. That is a hell of a burden on health care, social services, infrastructure, housing....
We need immigration is some areas but it is out of control since you know what.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

And if it helps the doubters look it up. South Tees Trust has employees from over 200 countries including 122k from Asia - but yeah I sneaked into the HoC and doctored the library there to back my claims up.

As someone who works in the medical industry, you’ve made that up.

 

[ganganvince]

Current numbers are the equivalent of a larger city than Leeds. That is a hell of a burden on health care, social services, infrastructure, housing....
We need immigration is some areas but it is out of control since you know what.

Agreed a level of immigration I'd required but needs balancing with the unused resource we currently have.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

We do need immigrants, in particular for hospitals and care, however I would say we are taking doctors and nurses often from third world countries, who desperately need them. We aren’t investing in training British students at all and we’ve put up so many barriers for them.

However as has been shown a lot of the immigrants coming here aren’t highly skilled and they don’t have jobs lined up. 700,000 a year is ridiculous

 

[Vic]

I don’t need to look it up, I know. English and French. Hopefully you can see how your hypothesis to help your mate out of a hole hasn’t worked. Same as Vic perhaps he meant 12k Asians work in the trust.

He has started to make up stories to try and bring is points to life. Not just this thread but others as well. Weird.

I've no idea what he meant. 122k was ridiculous, I guessed it might be a typo or a figure for a much wider area than that Trust, but it obviously wasn't for that trust as the total workforce is under 12k. I did check the annual report and it's maybe 1.2k of the FTE workforce is BME.