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[bluenova]

Some of the unrepeatable comments underneath the post, :) I’m trying to understand why women need compensation for the change in state pension age to bring retirement age equal with men.
I don’t recall labour promising to pay compensation during the election campaign in fact they didn’t promise much at all

It's always looked a really odd campaign to me. As far as I can see, the oldest women affected when it changed in 1995, 44 at the time, and that group would have expected to retire at 60, but would now retire at 61.

Anyone losing the full five years would have been 40 or under. It's hard to believe that something so momentous passed anyone by for around two decades.

The 2011 changes brought the move to 65 forward by 2 years, to 2018, but the group affected were contacted directly to let them know it was happening, and would have had 7 years notice of a 1 year change.

I also, never understood the poverty situation if people were having to retire later. Is the argument that they gave up work at 60 without realising the pension wouldn't come?

Am I missing something obvious?

 

[manclad]

Gregg Wallace approves of the last one

And so does Tina Turner.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

It's always looked a really odd campaign to me. As far as I can see, the oldest women affected when it changed in 1995, 44 at the time, and that group would have expected to retire at 60, but would now retire at 61.

Anyone losing the full five years would have been 40 or under. It's hard to believe that something so momentous passed anyone by for around two decades.

The 2011 changes brought the move to 65 forward by 2 years, to 2018, but the group affected were contacted directly to let them know it was happening, and would have had 7 years notice of a 1 year change.

I also, never understood the poverty situation if people were having to retire later. Is the argument that they gave up work at 60 without realising the pension wouldn't come?

Am I missing something obvious?

Some foolish women did give up work at 60 or only realised just before.

Can't say they are deserving of much sympathy though.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

It's always looked a really odd campaign to me. As far as I can see, the oldest women affected when it changed in 1995, 44 at the time, and that group would have expected to retire at 60, but would now retire at 61.

Anyone losing the full five years would have been 40 or under. It's hard to believe that something so momentous passed anyone by for around two decades.

The 2011 changes brought the move to 65 forward by 2 years, to 2018, but the group affected were contacted directly to let them know it was happening, and would have had 7 years notice of a 1 year change.

I also, never understood the poverty situation if people were having to retire later. Is the argument that they gave up work at 60 without realising the pension wouldn't come?

Am I missing something obvious?

No, in my books, it all a scam by the solicitors who are acting for them. There was so much time for people to understand the change that it’s hard to see how a claim could even have been made.

I remember watching an interview a few years ago and the person affected was saying that it was wrong for them to change the rules has they had planned to retire at 60 years old. When questioned on the timeline, they stated that they were aware but didn’t receive a letter of the change, so should therefore be entitled to compensation. Even the interviewer was lost for words.

 

[Vic]

I get her point but not the best look

Labour had already dropped a commitment to compensation. Another "difficult choice" but one that we campaigned on in 2019 (for redress for the waspi women - at least for those for whom the change left them with no job and years to wait till the new pension age).

 

[bluethrunthru]

Labour had already dropped a commitment to compensation. Another "difficult choice" but one that we campaigned on in 2019 (for redress for the waspi women - at least for those for whom the change left them with no job and years to wait till the new pension age).

campaigned on in 2019 and lost - didn't do so in 2024 and won.

The fact is Labour - instead of quoting the 22bn black hole need to personalise it sector by sector - ie the promise X but set aside no funding to do it then add in what they can do with the limited resources

 

[Vic]

Meanwhile, in a webinar for Labour members, Wes Streeting commits to the NHS free at point of use, citing his own treatment for cancer without having to worry about the cost - "unlike in the USA", so that's him on Trump's "Marxist" list.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

 

[bluenova]

Some foolish women did give up work at 60 or only realised just before.

Can't say they are deserving of much sympathy though.

I think that's a bit harsh, but I just don't understand how it happens. Nobody in their lives knew? Nobody at work made the connection? Surely you see other people passing 60 and not retiring?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Dissent in the ranks.

Love it.