The Labour Government

[blueinsa]

When do the grown-ups arrive? 40+ years of the same shit, repackaged.

Starmer is finished.

The knives are well and truly out for him now and he only has himself to blame.

 

[mosssideblue]

Am I missing something. Don’t you have to be an MP to become PM?

 

[blueinsa]

Am I missing something. Don’t you have to be an MP to become PM?

Technically it’s no but for all intents and purposes it’s yes.

 

[Vic]

For starters - why does the deputy leader have to be a woman?

"They" don't.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Quite pleasantly surprised with how quickly turbo nonce Mandelson has been ejected

Forever more like. By the time he'd taken his fingers out of his ears, two days had past.
And you know what they say, 24 hours is a long time in politics.
It took him 48 hours. Quite the opposite of quickly.

 

[west didsblue]

Am I missing something. Don’t you have to be an MP to become PM?

Maybe that’s what laying the groundwork means.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Forever more like. By the time he'd taken his fingers out of his ears, two days had past.
And you know what they say, 24 hours is a long time in politics.
It took him 48 hours. Quite the opposite of quickly.

And they had the new emails before Starmer defended Mandelson at PMQs as well.

So not only did he show horrendous judgement, he subsequently lied about it as well.

 

[blueinsa]

And they had the new emails before Starmer defended Mandelson at PMQs as well.

So not only did he show horrendous judgement, he subsequently lied about it as well.

At least he is an adult though eh?

 

[Vic]

And they had the new emails before Starmer defended Mandelson at PMQs as well.

So not only did he show horrendous judgement, he subsequently lied about it as well.

Apparently "they" - someone in no. 10 - had the emails and didn't tell Starmer before PMQ. I keep watching reruns of "yes minister" and wonder if there's a lot of "what did the minister know and when did he know it?" that translates to "what doesn't the minister need to know on a 'need to know' basis?"

Unless of course they're lying about him not knowing before PMQ. Whatever you make of it (or of Starmer) I can't quite imagine his being daft enough to defend Mandelson if he had seen the emails.

The main problem is that his main selling point was boring competence so making headlines while looking incompetent means in effect we've got the Anti-Starmer.

 

[Gray]

I just find Starmer to be very weak, he is always clasping his hands together I am sure a body language expert can explain what that means.

I have looked on the internet and one site says it indicates anxiety and stress.

Personally I don't think he is up to the job.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Apparently "they" - someone in no. 10 - had the emails and didn't tell Starmer before PMQ. I keep watching reruns of "yes minister" and wonder if there's a lot of "what did the minister know and when did he know it?" that translates to "what doesn't the minister need to know on a 'need to know' basis?"

Unless of course they're lying about him not knowing before PMQ. Whatever you make of it (or of Starmer) I can't quite imagine his being daft enough to defend Mandelson if he had seen the emails.

The main problem is that his main selling point was boring competence so making headlines while looking incompetent means in effect we've got the Anti-Starmer.

I think it’s absolutely inconceivable that Starmer wasn’t made aware of the emails when they were provided to the government on Tuesday.

Emails containing highly significant evidence on the relationship between the US ambassador and a notorious sex offender, a week before the state visit of a US President who also has links to the same individual. It’s a matter of key national importance.

The suggestion that what would have been a significant number of the country’s most senior civil servants across a number of departments - people who’ve made their careers out of passing on shit up the chain of command - failed to inform the PM is pure nonsense. If such a failure had indeed have occurred, people would have been named and fired by now.

As for Starmer’s judgement, from what I’ve seen so far it would have been more of a surprise to me if he had done the right thing and disassociated himself from Mandelson at PMQs.

 

[TinFoilHat]

For starters - why does the deputy leader have to be a woman?

They don't.

Starmer with his compliant NEC manipulated the election to ensure it is.

 

[KS55]

Starmer must go. Not up to the job. Useless.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The fact that people are validly talking about Starmer’s exit, a little more than a year after he was elected with a huge majority underlines how politically unstable we’ve become in the last decade or so.

It’s partly down to Brexit, but far from exclusively. It’s part of a wider issue throughout the western world driven by social media, population displacement and the decline of Western hegemony.

It’s also been aided and abetted by our sinfully wank electoral system, which meant we ended up with Liz Truss.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Despite my dealings with him I thought he'd be the first prime minister in years to survive a full electoral term of office.

He'll be off to that cushy EU job quicker than expected at this rate as the drip feed from a scorned Mandy becomes a full on storm.

 

[mosssideblue]

I just find Starmer to be very weak, he is always clasping his hands together I am sure a body language expert can explain what that means.

I have looked on the internet and one site says it indicates anxiety and stress.

Personally I don't think he is up to the job.

He blinks now and again. What do you think that means?

 

[Gray]

He blinks now and again. What do you think that means?

Grit in his eye?

 

[mosssideblue]

Grit in his eye?

Did a BL expert tell you that

 

[Gray]

Did a BL expert tell you that

No worked it out myself.

 

[stan bowles]

Mandleson could well be into Epstein levels of skullduggery.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has receipts of wrongdoings and perversions of a lot of politicians hence their eagerness to placate him.

Corbyn triggered the true Prince of Darkness on many occasions. Mandy is an angry narcissistic man. He will take Starmer down with him.

And his dodgy past left him wide open to blackmail and undue influence from outside factors who've got something on him thereby risking a threat to our national security. Good riddance that the sleaze bag has gone.