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I always assumed that lawyers had very sharp minds and an ability to ask the right piercing questions until Kier came along
 
mosssideblue said:
The appointment was a mistake, but Starmer wouldn’t have done the vetting
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This is the problem - people listen to the Right Wing shit and believe and repeat it. Of course Starmer wouldn't have done the vetting he is running a country so when would he fit it in? Of course I am sure the poster will have used Never Hear Keir accusing him of not doing his job and they simply repeat this stuff without critical thinking - how can he not be doing his job whilst simultaneously vetting everything? As a view thats just childish.

For what its worth I think its gone past the point of no return for him. Its a shame because lots of good stuff has been done and studiously ignored by the press but his lack of political nowse and that of his advisers has been astounding. Now I feel its up to him to hold the fort until the HMRC report exonerates Rayner from any deliberate wrong doing then stepping aside working to block Streeting after all his plotting
 
bluethrunthru said:
This is the problem - people listen to the Right Wing shit and believe and repeat it. Of course Starmer wouldn't have done the vetting he is running a country so when would he fit it in? Of course I am sure the poster will have used Never Hear Keir accusing him of not doing his job and they simply repeat this stuff without critical thinking - how can he not be doing his job whilst simultaneously vetting everything? As a view thats just childish.

For what its worth I think its gone past the point of no return for him. Its a shame because lots of good stuff has been done and studiously ignored by the press but his lack of political nowse and that of his advisers has been astounding. Now I feel its up to him to hold the fort until the HMRC report exonerates Rayner from any deliberate wrong doing then stepping aside working to block Streeting after all his ploytting
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Don't you think Starmer has been around the Party long enough to know about the stench from his Mortgage scandal.
You might like to think about who leaked the story that Rayner advised not to appoint him as Ambassador
 
Seriously, what has politics become where you're begging others to let you win because you've failed miserably to do the job needed to win yourself.
It's pretty embarrassing really. I fucking despise all that reform stands for and in an ideal world they would be getting pointed at and laughed at as the joke they are but if people are willing to vote for them then it's time to take a look in the mirror and do better because something has gone massively tits up along the way.
 
Vic said:
It might not be a bright idea, but was she wrong?

(And I'm not sure I like the dishonest spin on it from "Cantona and Best"!)
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Yes, it's wrong. It's up to Labour to up their own game, not rely on help from other parties.
Nobody (normal) wants a reform candidate getting into any office but if they do it's because the ones who have been entrusted to power in the past have dropped the ball big time.
Your refusal to see any wrong in anything Labour does isn't a great look tbh.
 
Phil1 said:
Yes, it's wrong. It's up to Labour to up their own game, not rely on help from other parties.
Nobody (normal) wants a reform candidate getting into any office but if they do it's because the ones who have been entrusted to power in the past have dropped the ball big time.
Your refusal to see any wrong in anything Labour does isn't a great look tbh.
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I don't care about a "good look".

I meant was she wrong that the Greens can't win the seat.

Was she wrong that the Greens have misrepresented Prof Ford's views?

Did you read her letter or just the dishonest gloss by "Cantona and Best"?
 
Vic said:
I don't care about a "good look".

I meant was she wrong that the Greens can't win the seat.

Was she wrong that the Greens have misrepresented Prof Ford's views?

Did you read her letter or just the dishonest gloss by "Cantona and Best"?
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I feel you are dishonest with yourself when it comes to your support of this version of the Labour party, so whilst I've no doubt you don't care a jot about my opinion I no longer trust yours.
You refuse to address any issues (and there have been many since they came to power) and instead choose to make excuses.
Your party is dying a slow painful death and I take no joy in that because the alternatives are even worse.
 
Labour are a mess, however Starmer has to stay on unless a leadership election is called, simply because as daft amd weak as he is the prospect of the fucking clownshoe wanker David Lammy being temporary PM if starmer stepped down is worse.
 
bluethrunthru said:
This is the problem - people listen to the Right Wing shit and believe and repeat it. Of course Starmer wouldn't have done the vetting he is running a country so when would he fit it in? Of course I am sure the poster will have used Never Hear Keir accusing him of not doing his job and they simply repeat this stuff without critical thinking - how can he not be doing his job whilst simultaneously vetting everything? As a view thats just childish.

For what its worth I think its gone past the point of no return for him. Its a shame because lots of good stuff has been done and studiously ignored by the press but his lack of political nowse and that of his advisers has been astounding. Now I feel its up to him to hold the fort until the HMRC report exonerates Rayner from any deliberate wrong doing then stepping aside working to block Streeting after all his plotting
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Good times ahead then…. FFS
 
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