The Labour Government

meltonblue said:
Where do you get your news from?

Not saying that as a gotcha, just wondering how that could be your summation and where you’ve got that from would give an indication to how many others will think the same now too.
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It's true but wrenched out of context.

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Boys should be able to ‘experiment and wear dresses’ at primary school, Education Secretary tells LBC | LBC

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Didn't some lads at one school start wearing skirts in solidarity with girls who weren't allowed to wear trousers in freezing weather?

Just call them kilts.
 
meltonblue said:
Where do you get your news from?

Not saying that as a gotcha, just wondering how that could be your summation and where you’ve got that from would give an indication to how many others will think the same now too.
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I searched it and its literally just the daily mail, the sun, the times. All just telling their fans how the world will end in a sea of woke reforms.

It's a nothing story with enough triggers to be used for political leverage. Both sides do it, I'm so fed up with it tbh.

I do believe the Internet is destroying truth. We're all going to end up living a lie.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
I searched it and its literally just the daily mail, the sun, the times. All just telling their fans how the world will end in a sea of woke reforms.

It's a nothing story with enough triggers to be used for political leverage. Both sides do it, I'm so fed up with it tbh.

I do believe the Internet is destroying truth. We're all going to end up living a lie.
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The Future’s Blue! said:
In truth, the water companies are private businesses sold off to the highest bidder who are there to make money from me and you. OFWAT is also an independent business, paid for by companies who pass that charge over to its customers. They don’t answer to the government of the time, but they do have to answer to parliament as they are governed by legislation.

We have no real say in what they do apart from Parliament enforcing sanctions, when needed.

One of my biggest gripes, obviously apart from being sold off in the first place, is that the contracts put in place when they were sold off make it near impossible to bring them back into public ownership as they can be just sold off to the next investor and the only way to take them back is if the company hands them back to the government.

Probably want to look back at Thatcher who also gave them subsidies to sweeten the deal. Since then, they’ve done fuck all for their customers, or environment, and now need to up their prices to fix almost 40 years of neglect while taking their dividends.
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Thames water demanded £4,billion, not for infrastructure, but to meet the performance related bonuses of the board-members.....FFS
 
Gabriel said:
Not sure Starmer should be using some of that language to describe others on the left, particularly when many of their own supporters share those same views.

'Laser-focused', though...
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It revealed everything about him and the party he wants to lead.

The greens aren't far left.

They are close to Lib Dems on some of their policies. They are traditionally anti trade unions.Although that is softening.

It's a **** trick worth of Farage to misconstrue their drugs policy.
 
TinFoilHat said:
It revealed everything about him and the party he wants to lead.

The greens aren't far left.

They are close to Lib Dems on some of their policies. They are traditionally anti trade unions.Although that is softening.

It's a **** trick worth of Farage to misconstrue their drugs policy.
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It revealed everything about the people behind him who are writing such nonsense. It’s un-believable and, to my ears, sounds un-believed when he says it. He’s trying to lead a broad church, which is a difficult task, but such language is unhelpful and will only lead to a schism. Badly advised.
 
Gabriel said:
It revealed everything about the people behind him who are writing such nonsense. It’s un-believable and, to my ears, sounds un-believed when he says it. He’s trying to lead a broad church, which is a difficult task, but such language is unhelpful and will only lead to a schism. Badly advised.
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MPs are being selected that have been trained into following the narrative of the Tony B.Liar institute

Local selection is now a joke as the CLPs have little power over who the want to represent their constituency anymore.
 
threespires said:
If Labour can't listen to the first couple of minutes or so of Spencer's victory speech last night and work out from that where they are going wrong then there really is no hope for them.
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Any Labour MP elected could have said much the same (but as an MP of the ruling party might actually have more influence). To save time, I'll put that "might" in italics (if the button worked!).
 
threespires said:
If Labour can't listen to the first couple of minutes or so of Spencer's victory speech last night and work out from that where they are going wrong then there really is no hope for them.
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Starmers response today was to come out and say 'we must fight against political extremes', he is doubling down on the strategy of 'Greens and Reform are essentially the same', Labour are going to get decimated at the election.
 
Vic said:
Any Labour MP elected could have said much the same (but as an MP of the ruling party might actually have more influence). To save time, I'll put that "might" in italics (if the button worked!).
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I don't think they would have though, Labour has lost the ability to speak clearly as to who and what they represent.

Though it might have been tactically the right thing to do at the time, the 2024 election strategy of saying little and just letting the Tories implode meant they went into power with very little by way of vision and compelling narrative that the public understood. In that vacuum the public created it's own (unrealistic) narrative of ok now you've got in with a big parliamentary majority, you need to fix things thanks or else. Unfortunately, the sheer scale and complexity of governing the shit show they inherited seemed to hobble them from the get go and politically they've been on the back foot ever since.

For sure it's much easier for an insurgent to espouse populist rhetoric than it is for a sitting government but that's the landscape they are faced with; it looks like Labour will try and combat the Greens by trying to lump them in with Reform but that type of negativity simply won't work. I think in the absence of a convincing vision or narrative that people can coalesce around and that can form the basis for coherent rather than piecemeal policy, Labour are doomed and I say that with real sadness.
 
If Labour voters had known how far ahead the Greens were, enough of them would have switched back to Labour for them to come second.
 
threespires said:
If Labour can't listen to the first couple of minutes or so of Spencer's victory speech last night and work out from that where they are going wrong then there really is no hope for them.
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The cabinet will learn nothing, i think its important to differentiate between those in charge and a lot of the back benches and members.

May can't come quick enough, hopefully Labour get a proper kicking and Starmer and his band of bland enablers go bye bye.
 
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