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Jimmieblue
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Does anyone else feel like they are being tested, to see how much they will put up with? Boomers lived in an age when it was thought if you worked hard, paid your taxes, stayed within the law, brought your family up to think the same … things would get better. Now it has become obvious that the politicians have made very bad decisions, but lined their pockets very nicely thank you. Or is it just me? Perhaps when our generation has gone, things will buck up.
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This bloke is one of the biggest charlatans walking the earth.
hampshireblue
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A bit harsh. I haven't listened to all of this interview but he seems to have come from a poor background, done well for himself and is trying to highlight some of the inequalities in society.
Chippy_boy
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What about the 80% of their pay that was paid to millions of people in furlough payments? Of course those people had that didn't they.
I'm really not motivated to jump on any PPE scandal bandwagon. Doubtless some bad decisions were taken but the vast majority have to be seen in the context of the fact that the UK was in panic mode. We were desperate to buy PPE and respirators from anywhere we could get them and it's obvious we couldn't go through the usual, drawn out procurement processes that would have taken months at least. Hospital staff were desperate for any PPE they could get. I am sure some things were done that should not have been. I am equally sure that most MPs and ministers are decent and honest and that most of the noise is fuelled by political opposition milking the story as much as possible.
And a minor point, this still doesn't explain how TinFoilHat has his money taken off him by rich people. The money the government paid out was not his money.
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Chippy_boy
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In other news, this is EXACTLY the sort of shite that makes my blood boil : the government about to legally require TV manufacturers to put BBC iPlayer on their TVs.
www.broadbandtvnews.com
It's the government behind this. Ofcom are merely implementing the government directive.
There's millions of people who have no interest in iPlayer and many who refuse to watch BBC propaganda at all. Surely there are plenty of TVs and devices that do offer iPlayer so if anyone wants to watch it, it's simple enough. Even if your TV doesn't have it, a smart TV stick is cheap enough. Or any smartphone. But now people are going to forced to have iPlayer whether they want it or not? Disgusting, and worse, NEEDLESS meddling in people's freedoms.
Ofcom names the 14 connected TV platforms that must carry broadcaster VOD
Ofcom has published details of the Television Selection Services (TSS) or connected TV platforms that will be designated by the Secretary of State to be required to ensure that BBC iPlayer and othe…
www.broadbandtvnews.com
It's the government behind this. Ofcom are merely implementing the government directive.
There's millions of people who have no interest in iPlayer and many who refuse to watch BBC propaganda at all. Surely there are plenty of TVs and devices that do offer iPlayer so if anyone wants to watch it, it's simple enough. Even if your TV doesn't have it, a smart TV stick is cheap enough. Or any smartphone. But now people are going to forced to have iPlayer whether they want it or not? Disgusting, and worse, NEEDLESS meddling in people's freedoms.
Chippy_boy
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When you say spent all of it, you mean we used it to lower everyone's taxes.
Chippy_boy
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Indeed he is.
Churchlawtonblue
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Looks like the UK car industry is currently in free fall.
The result of a double whammy of a relatively poor trade deal with Trump which added 10% tarriffs to UK car exports when we had an overall trade balance with the US.
Combined with Milliband punishing and fining them for making and selling cars the consumer wants. Leading to manufacturers leaving the UK. Smart move Mr Milliband.
www.bbc.co.uk
The result of a double whammy of a relatively poor trade deal with Trump which added 10% tarriffs to UK car exports when we had an overall trade balance with the US.
Combined with Milliband punishing and fining them for making and selling cars the consumer wants. Leading to manufacturers leaving the UK. Smart move Mr Milliband.
UK vehicle making hits lowest level since 1953, excluding Covid
Data shows a slump in car and van production as the industry trade body hopes a UK-US tariff deal will bring "confidence".
www.bbc.co.uk
Churchlawtonblue
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Its not really a straightforward comparison in fairness. The UK certainly did gain financially from its oil and gas like Norway did, but the UK had a population 14 times larger than Norways so any financial benefit gained would be spread more thinly so to speak and less noticeable.
bluethrunthru
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In other news, this is EXACTLY the sort of shite that makes my blood boil : the government about to legally require TV manufacturers to put BBC iPlayer on their TVs.
Ofcom names the 14 connected TV platforms that must carry broadcaster VOD
Ofcom has published details of the Television Selection Services (TSS) or connected TV platforms that will be designated by the Secretary of State to be required to ensure that BBC iPlayer and othe…
It's the government behind this. Ofcom are merely implementing the government directive.
There's millions of people who have no interest in iPlayer and many who refuse to watch BBC propaganda at all. Surely there are plenty of TVs and devices that do offer iPlayer so if anyone wants to watch it, it's simple enough. Even if your TV doesn't have it, a smart TV stick is cheap enough. Or any smartphone. But now people are going to forced to have iPlayer whether they want it or not? Disgusting, and worse, NEEDLESS meddling in people's freedoms.
just don't watch/use it. I have loads of options on my TV I never use and it wouldn't bother me if they weren't there. How that is depriving me of some sort of freedoms requires some Olympic standard mental gymnastics
If people are paying a licence fee then I'd say this improves access to what they are already paying for.
bluethrunthru
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most went on paying 3m+ unemployed people's dole claims
The perfect fumble
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Well I'll pocket "you're not dim" and have another cuppa tea :-)
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If this makes you blood boil, maybe another walk is called for?In other news, this is EXACTLY the sort of shite that makes my blood boil : the government about to legally require TV manufacturers to put BBC iPlayer on their TVs.
Ofcom names the 14 connected TV platforms that must carry broadcaster VOD
Ofcom has published details of the Television Selection Services (TSS) or connected TV platforms that will be designated by the Secretary of State to be required to ensure that BBC iPlayer and othe…
It's the government behind this. Ofcom are merely implementing the government directive.
There's millions of people who have no interest in iPlayer and many who refuse to watch BBC propaganda at all. Surely there are plenty of TVs and devices that do offer iPlayer so if anyone wants to watch it, it's simple enough. Even if your TV doesn't have it, a smart TV stick is cheap enough. Or any smartphone. But now people are going to forced to have iPlayer whether they want it or not? Disgusting, and worse, NEEDLESS meddling in people's freedoms.
Offset your frustration by the signing of the Indian trade deal which is good for the economy, but on which none of the usual snipers on here have commented and also the view of the CEO of Lloyds who thinks the outlook for the economy is much more positive than is being reported.
Chippy_boy
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Random words, or any element of truth in that?
bluethrunthru
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just the actual published unemployment figures
The Thatcher years in statistics
Margaret Thatcher's premiership was a time of immense social and economic change, bringing high unemployment and industrial unrest but also home ownership and low taxation.
www.bbc.co.uk
Chippy_boy
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I'm just totally against government needlessly meddling in our lives mate. I have no issue with them trying to sign trade deals - that's what they are supposed to be doing. (I'll park for the sake of this conversation the deal also including UK employers not having to pay employers' NI on Indian hires, whilst having to pay it on British hires, and that said Indian hire can also bring his spouse (possibly family, I can't recall) who will also be given a work permit. So much for steps to reduce immigration FFS).
I am not making a party political point here. It's applies to governments of all parties. I want them to keep us safe, keep us healthy, provide a good environment for businesses to thrive, and provide support for those in need of help. That's it. Everything else is bollocks.
Chippy_boy
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What I meant was how much of our oil and gas revenues were spent on that, which was your point. Had you said some of it went on that, then OK. But you did say most.just the actual published unemployment figures
The Thatcher years in statistics
Margaret Thatcher's premiership was a time of immense social and economic change, bringing high unemployment and industrial unrest but also home ownership and low taxation.
Doing a quick google, north sea oil and gas generated about £10bn per year in government revenue at its peak in the 1980's vs a dole bill at the time typically 3 or 4, peaked briefly at 6. So on face value there's some merit in what you say, although it is a bit less than half to be strictly accurate.
But you cannot attribute 100% of the unemployment to Thatcher. There were 1.3m unemployed when she first entered office.
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Absolutely loads of people I know who run small businesses hammered the covid loans. 2 of them (both rags!) built extensions on their houses with it!
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They are not forcing you to watch it? I hardly watch YouTube but the app is on our TV along with lots of others I don't look at. I genuinely dont see what the issue is here.In other news, this is EXACTLY the sort of shite that makes my blood boil : the government about to legally require TV manufacturers to put BBC iPlayer on their TVs.
Ofcom names the 14 connected TV platforms that must carry broadcaster VOD
Ofcom has published details of the Television Selection Services (TSS) or connected TV platforms that will be designated by the Secretary of State to be required to ensure that BBC iPlayer and othe…
It's the government behind this. Ofcom are merely implementing the government directive.
There's millions of people who have no interest in iPlayer and many who refuse to watch BBC propaganda at all. Surely there are plenty of TVs and devices that do offer iPlayer so if anyone wants to watch it, it's simple enough. Even if your TV doesn't have it, a smart TV stick is cheap enough. Or any smartphone. But now people are going to forced to have iPlayer whether they want it or not? Disgusting, and worse, NEEDLESS meddling in people's freedoms.