The Labour Government

[bluethrunthru]

So Covid lockdown, which mostly affected and killed the elderly cost us between 300 and 450 billion. The winter fuel allowance change, which will mostly kill and affect the elderly, will save us 1.5 billion. The 1.5 billion saved will partly be spent on doctors pay who, presumably, will be spending an increased amount of time looking after the cold affected elderly. Why the fuck did we spend 300 to 450 billion on Covid precautions when we obviously only have a superficial concern for elderly peoples lives?

Its not being withdrawn its going to still be paid to those who claim pension credit - the poorest. In fact a lot of pension credit goes unclaimed so a good side of this could see an increased uptake by pensioners.

My Dad gets the winter fuel allowance plus emergency fuel payments if it stays cold across the requisite number of days.

My Dad is a pensioner on a BAE pension plus state pension - he gets about £20k pa. He lives with one of my sisters and her husband who together earn nigh on £60pa before tax. Do you think my Dad deserves and needs the payment coz I don't nor does he but like anyone he will take free money.

 

[law74]

You will be paying a lot more than that by the time these lying bastards are finished

The lying bastards are finished.
Did you miss the result of the General Election?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Found out today what shit show he has inherrited I suspect, what do you think?

So he's against austerity unless it's really really bad, and then suddenly he's for it?

 

[Sale Moor Blue]

22% pay rise
No doubt most of them will still be moaning.

 

[mosssideblue]

So he's against austerity unless it's really really bad, and then suddenly he's for it?

The Tories have wrecked it and kept a lot hidden which came out today (confirmed by the IFS Dir), so things had to change from what was hoped. You might not like what Rachel Reeves has announced, but surely you understand their position

 

[law74]

22% pay rise
No doubt most of them will still be moaning.

Over 2 years after 14 years of pay cuts.

 

[mosssideblue]

Something for the Tories on here

 

[Sale Moor Blue]

Over 2 years after 14 years of pay cuts.

I'd be glad with 2%!

 

[Brewster's millions]

Because they have offered them a over the top pay rise, my missus works for the NHS and probably works harder then any Junior doctor, she has worked for them as a nurse for 40 years and will probably get 5%,so don't talk bollocks about something you know fuck all about eh

The BMA’s calculation of a 26% real terms pay cut since 2008/09 is quite frankly a ridiculous and highly cynical move, based on the use of the RPI as the inflation measure, and therefore heavily distorted by the methodological shortcomings of that index which work to artificially boost recorded price growth.

The same shortcomings which have of course already led the ONS to remove the RPI’s designation as a reliable national statistic, and which will ultimately see the RPI being phased out from 2030 onwards. And yet the government has effectively corroborated the BMA’s argument by offering this pay rise.

I’m afraid it the same old Labour Party. Cave in to the unions and expect everybody else to pay for it all.

 

[law74]

The BMA’s calculation of a 26% real terms pay cut since 2008/09 is quite frankly a ridiculous and highly cynical move, based on the use of the RPI as the inflation measure, and therefore heavily distorted by the methodological shortcomings of that index which work to artificially boost recorded price growth.

The same shortcomings which have of course already led the ONS to remove the RPI’s designation as a reliable national statistic, and which will ultimately see the RPI being phased out from 2030 onwards. And yet the government has effectively corroborated the BMA’s argument by offering this pay rise.

I’m afraid it the same old Labour Party. Cave in to the unions and expect everybody else to pay for it all.

I know that my calculations of being over 30% worse off since 2009 are based on the Bank of England inflation calculator which uses the lower consumer price index rather than the more accurate retail price index.
However, as you object to pay rises for those who actually spend their pay increases in this country, thus recycling the money in the UK economy, instead of giving it to bankers to invest in tax havens, im not going to take anything you say seriously.