Anyone going to a rally where the speakers are Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, Laurence Fox and Elon Musk is a fucking moron. Chasing their votes is pointless because they would never vote for any party to the left of Farage in a million years. Most of them probably couldn’t read the names of the candidates on a ballot paper.150,000+ people turned up to that rally in London yesterday, and there was a golden opportunity for Mahmood to say, "we hear you"
Pot, kettle, black.You’ve been stating opinions as facts for days. Thanks for confirming that you were lying when you said they were facts.
Conversely, do you not think that if she said we hear you, that would present a green flag for further protests on any topic?I'm sure Starmer and his colleagues are not all thick. But what I find completely staggering is just how completely inept they are at this politics lark. They are absolutely clueless at it.
They don't seem to have learned anything at all about the fact that in politics, appearances matter. The words you use, matter. It's not only about policies (although I disagree with pretty much all of them), it's how it's presented.
If Starmer or Rayner had given so much as a passing thought about this, neither of them would be in the dire trouble they've found themselves these last 2 weeks.
And it's not just those two, it's all of them. 150,000+ people turned up to that rally in London yesterday, and there was a golden opportunity for Mahmood to say, "we hear you", but what does she say? In terms, "far right thugs will feel the full force of the law". Well that's going to get them all voting for her isn't it. Not. They (Labour ministers) are completely incapable of reading any room
Thanks for misrepresenting or making illogical inferences from my previous posts. Nice to know you follow my activity though.Pot, kettle, black.
This coming from the bloke who said Biden definitely wasn’t senile, that the whole Angela Rayner affair was a definite non-story and that the UK definitely can’t go bankrupt because of the current level of the FTSE100.
If you believe the tall story put out by Downing Street about Starmer not knowing about the Epstein emails until last Thursday, then I’m very happy for you.
If you believe that Starmer couldn’t possibly have been told about the new Epstein revelations until Peter Mandelson had replied to his email ~ because of course they couldn’t have contacted the ambassador to the US by phone for 24 hours - then again that’s great.
Again, I’m very happy for you. Have a great day.
I'm not surprised that you have that view.Anyone going to a rally where the speakers are Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, Laurence Fox and Elon Musk is a fucking moron. Chasing their votes is pointless because they would never vote for any party to the left of Farage in a million years. Most of them probably couldn’t read the names of the candidates on a ballot paper.
I’m not surprised that you’re not surprised.I'm not surprised that you have that view.
No, I don't. An enormous number of people in this country are deeply concerned with the levels of both legal and illegal migration. And are sick to death of not being listened to, being discriminated against, and anyone who shares their view being branded as racist, and/or far right. (Throw in "thug" for good measure.) These are the things that motivated IMO way more than 150,000 people to turn up in the pouring rain.Conversely, do you not think that if she said we hear you, that would present a green flag for further protests on any topic?
No, I don't. An enormous number of people in this country are deeply concerned with the levels of both legal and illegal migration.
I agree people are concerned but think Farage et al have stoked the fire on this deliberately to cause division. Legal migration is in the gift of Governments to control and apparently these numbers have been reduced.No, I don't. An enormous number of people in this country are deeply concerned with the levels of both legal and illegal migration. And are sick to death of not being listened to, being discriminated against, and anyone who shares their view being branded as racist, and/or far right. (Throw in "thug" for good measure.) These are the things that motivated IMO way more than 150,000 people to turn up in the pouring rain.
That people on here cannot see this, is hardly surprising given the level of blinkeredness being exhibited by many on here. Carry on believing they are a small minority, of morons "who couldn’t read the names of the candidates on a ballot paper" by all means.That refusal to listen, refusal to open your (not you specifically - other on here) eyes will lead to Labour oblivion, which is the best possible thing that could happen to our country.
Of course not because they’d rather listen to lunatics like Hopkins and Fox, and malign opportunists like Farage, Robinson and Musk.Are they aware immigration numbers have massively reduced since Labour have come to power ?
Thank god then that Starmer hasn't been affected by reforms poll showing. That would make him a moron. And those who voted for him would be very annoyed indeed:-)Anyone going to a rally where the speakers are Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, Laurence Fox and Elon Musk is a fucking moron. Chasing their votes is pointless because they would never vote for any party to the left of Farage in a million years. Most of them probably couldn’t read the names of the candidates on a ballot paper.
What a sneery shitty thing to say in that last sentenceAnyone going to a rally where the speakers are Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, Laurence Fox and Elon Musk is a fucking moron. Chasing their votes is pointless because they would never vote for any party to the left of Farage in a million years. Most of them probably couldn’t read the names of the candidates on a ballot paper.
Tommy fan?What a sneery shitty thing to say in that last sentence
Well personally I think anyone who goes to a rally where Robinson, Hopkins, Fox and Musk are the speakers is a ****. And I don’t give a shit if they think I’m sneering at them because I’m not a politician trying to get their votes. I’m just saying it as I see it rather than pretending that I need to take heed of the views of morons.Cant help yourself can you.
Nope.
No it means youre a sneery , judgemental obnoxious persom who has taken some weird high ground and not only think youre always right , you think you are morally right.Well personally I think anyone who goes to a rally where Robinson, Hopkins, Fox and Musk are the speakers is a ****. And I don’t give a shit if they think I’m sneering at them because I’m not a politician trying to get their votes. I’m just saying it as I see it rather than pretending that I need to take heed of the views of morons.
Maybe he’s not a **** but he must live a pretty sheltered life if he doesn’t understand what the organiser, Tommy Robinson, stands for. And if he does understand what he stands for then he’s happy to support a racist, homophobic, violent prick.No it means youre a sneery , judgemental obnoxious persom who has taken some weird high ground and not only think youre always right , you think you are morally right.
I vote for whomever seems right at the time so im pretty apolitical.
I also know someone very well who went on saturday. A 76 year old retired fella who lives for his dog and man city. Hes not a ****, hes a belting bloke. If you met him you wouldnt think hes a ****. Hes had hard times, worries and problems and he went last minute on saturday because he felt the need to send a message that all isnt ok. The final straw was starmer knowingly giving mandelson a high profile job despite him knowing he was best pals with a paedo.
He said going on the march felt the right thing to do.
He saw no trouble, he said it was largely like being at the game, mostly blokes but lots of families too.
Fair play, the mans not a **** whatever judgy pricks like you think
If its cunts youre after, im sure your house is full of mirrors
So was EVERY one there a **** , or not?Maybe he’s not a **** but he must live a pretty sheltered life if he doesn’t understand what the organiser, Tommy Robinson, stands for. And if he does understand what he stands for then he’s happy to support a racist, homophobic, violent prick.