The Labour Government

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

It feels like the entire labour conference was about reform. I think they missed a trick in not giving more of a positive vision under labour.

 

[mosssideblue]

It feels like the entire labour conference was about reform. I think they missed a trick in not giving more of a positive vision under labour.

Did you just watch the highlights as there was plenty discussion about Labour’s achievements and vision.

 

[hilts]

As I read the headline this morning that was my first thought. She won't suffer.

They never do :-(

 

[Really_here]

I think Kier Starmer's nose is growing .....

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The Justice Secretary and Deputy PM making libellous statements, based on ‘articles circulating around from a teacher’.

I suppose that’s what you get with grownups.

To be libellous, it has to be untrue.

 

[BlueAnorak]

You inferred that she was going to hit those with a modest pension I.e those already drawing it.
Don’t see anything there that would do that

Then you are clueless.
The average retirement income of state pension + personal pension for a couple is £592 pounds a week - for an individual £285 a week.
The minimum wage take-home average is £447 a week. Pensioner income is supplemented by pension lump sums, downsizing and savings - all targets for Reeves the Pensioner killer.

(Notes:
1. The Cold winter payment abolition was UNFORGIVABLE for many pensioners.
From a Liebour government too!
2. I suspect Liebour will lose millions of votes from people 60 and over and allowing children to vote wont redress the balance as Pensioners actually vote in large numbers ' wheras barely 50% of yoof vote.
3. You bet your fucking life I have buyers regret. Nothing could be worse than the Tories thought I, but how fucking wrong I was. This government is a fucking train crash. A slow motion version of the Liz Truss government - but ultimately probably more damaging.)

 

[Manchester33]

Then you are clueless.
The average retirement income of state pension + personal pension for a couple is £592 pounds a week - for an individual £285 a week.
The minimum wage take-home average is £447 a week. Pensioner income is supplemented by downsizing and savings - all targets for Reeves the Pensioner killer.

(Notes:
1. The Cold winter payment abolition was UNFORGIVABLE for many pensioners.
From a Liebour government too!
2. I suspect Liebour will lose millions of votes from people 60 and over and allowing children to vote wont redress the balance as Pensioners actually vote in large numbers ' wheras barely 50% of yoof vote.
3. You bet your fucking life I have buyers regret. Nothing could be worse than the Tories thought I, but how fucking wrong I was. This government is a fucking train crash.)

The Tories got us into this mess. Yes on the one hand you’d probably be better off if they’d continued in power, but my kids would be paying for it when they’re your age.

The fact of the matter is the country needs to raise taxes (or massively reduce public spending - which seems impossible in my eyes).

Means tested taxes should be encouraged. One of your examples earlier was lowering the LTA…. Anyone with £1m+ in a pension can absolutely afford to pay a little more tax and absolutely shouldn’t be getting winter fuel payments.

 

[liveandletdive]

The Tories got us into this mess. Yes on the one hand you’d probably be better off if they’d continued in power, but my kids would be paying for it when they’re your age.

The fact of the matter is the country needs to raise taxes (or massively reduce public spending - which seems impossible in my eyes).

Means tested taxes should be encouraged. One of your examples earlier was lowering the LTA…. Anyone with £1m+ in a pension can absolutely afford to pay a little more tax and absolutely shouldn’t be getting winter fuel payments.

I've been paying into my pension for 37 years now (started at 18, now 55) and still a few years until I retire, hopefully I should have £1 million in my pot, I've sacrificed my wage to do that, my choice I know. Why should I now loose out my paying more tax, from my pension just to help out this abomination of a government, they can F off..

 

[Brewster's millions]

To be libellous, it has to be untrue.

Did you hear what Michael Crick had to say on the matter today?

Crick said that he spoke to between 60 and 80 people who knew Farage when at school and none of them could corroborate the story Lammy referenced.

I’ve no time for Farage at all, but Lammy making the remarks that he did just highlights what a fool he is.

 

[BlueHammer85]

It feels like the entire labour conference was about reform. I think they missed a trick in not giving more of a positive vision under labour.

Starmer spoke more about the Hillsborough law than he did on Reform.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Did you hear what Michael Crick had to say on the matter today?

Crick said that he spoke to between 60 and 80 people who knew Farage when at school and none of them could corroborate the story Lammy referenced.

I’ve no time for Farage at all, but Lammy making the remarks that he did just highlights what a fool he is.

Nigel Farage: what are schoolboy racism claims – and why have they resurfaced?​

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oolboy-racism-claims-why-have-they-resurfaced

 

[stonerblue]

Should seize assets and lock the pair of them up

They bought a massive yacht

 

[mosssideblue]

They bought a massive yacht

You mean we bought them a massive yacht

 

[mosssideblue]

I've been paying into my pension for 37 years now (started at 18, now 55) and still a few years until I retire, hopefully I should have £1 million in my pot, I've sacrificed my wage to do that, my choice I know. Why should I now loose out my paying more tax, from my pension just to help out this abomination of a government, they can F off..

Did you not claim tax relief from your pension contributions?

 

[mosssideblue]

Then you are clueless.
The average retirement income of state pension + personal pension for a couple is £592 pounds a week - for an individual £285 a week.
The minimum wage take-home average is £447 a week. Pensioner income is supplemented by pension lump sums, downsizing and savings - all targets for Reeves the Pensioner killer.

(Notes:
1. The Cold winter payment abolition was UNFORGIVABLE for many pensioners.
From a Liebour government too!
2. I suspect Liebour will lose millions of votes from people 60 and over and allowing children to vote wont redress the balance as Pensioners actually vote in large numbers ' wheras barely 50% of yoof vote.
3. You bet your fucking life I have buyers regret. Nothing could be worse than the Tories thought I, but how fucking wrong I was. This government is a fucking train crash. A slow motion version of the Liz Truss government - but ultimately probably more damaging.)

Agree on the WFA but Clueless, I’m certainly not.
What it comes down to is the definition of “ a modest” pension which is the post I responded to.

Also, we don’t know just yet what the budget next month contains, we are simply discussing rumours.

Time will tell if this Government turns out to be more damaging than Truss, but I very much doubt that

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Should seize assets and lock the pair of them up

Unsurprisingly, husband and wife are playing the same woe-is-me card. It wasn't their fault that their firm cut corners during a time of grave national emergency to line their own slimy pockets.

Because of course.

Criminal charges should be brought against them and imo, theft and it is theft of that scale should bring time at his majesty’s pleasure.

As I read the headline this morning that was my first thought. She won't suffer.

Sell their assets, their super yachts, then jail the pair of grifting cunts,

Absolutely. Multi millionaires should not get away with simply closing a company

Just Tories being Tories.

 

[mosssideblue]

Just Tories being Tories.

I hope Dorris and Wanksock are sleeping with one eye open

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Did you hear what Michael Crick had to say on the matter today?

Crick said that he spoke to between 60 and 80 people who knew Farage when at school and none of them could corroborate the story Lammy referenced.

I’ve no time for Farage at all, but Lammy making the remarks that he did just highlights what a fool he is.

I know someone that went to Dulwich College with him who told me otherwise. And 60 to 80 ffs. Can’t Crick count?

 

[Jimmieblue]

Leaving the pub yesterday, the whole topic round the bar was Starmer’s speech. Even the 2 young barmen, disgusted. These are the people he is has insulted. Needs to get out and about, test the feeling of the country.

 

[mosssideblue]

Leaving the pub yesterday, the whole topic round the bar was Starmer’s speech. Even the 2 young barmen, disgusted. These are the people he is has insulted. Needs to get out and about, test the feeling of the country.

How did he insult these two guys?