The Labour Government

BlueAnorak said:
Then you are clueless.
The average retirement income of state pension + personal pension for a couple is £592 pounds a week - for an individual £285 a week.
The minimum wage take-home average is £447 a week. Pensioner income is supplemented by downsizing and savings - all targets for Reeves the Pensioner killer.

(Notes:
1. The Cold winter payment abolition was UNFORGIVABLE for many pensioners.
From a Liebour government too!
2. I suspect Liebour will lose millions of votes from people 60 and over and allowing children to vote wont redress the balance as Pensioners actually vote in large numbers ' wheras barely 50% of yoof vote.
3. You bet your fucking life I have buyers regret. Nothing could be worse than the Tories thought I, but how fucking wrong I was. This government is a fucking train crash.)
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The Tories got us into this mess. Yes on the one hand you’d probably be better off if they’d continued in power, but my kids would be paying for it when they’re your age.

The fact of the matter is the country needs to raise taxes (or massively reduce public spending - which seems impossible in my eyes).

Means tested taxes should be encouraged. One of your examples earlier was lowering the LTA…. Anyone with £1m+ in a pension can absolutely afford to pay a little more tax and absolutely shouldn’t be getting winter fuel payments.
 
Manchester33 said:
The Tories got us into this mess. Yes on the one hand you’d probably be better off if they’d continued in power, but my kids would be paying for it when they’re your age.

The fact of the matter is the country needs to raise taxes (or massively reduce public spending - which seems impossible in my eyes).

Means tested taxes should be encouraged. One of your examples earlier was lowering the LTA…. Anyone with £1m+ in a pension can absolutely afford to pay a little more tax and absolutely shouldn’t be getting winter fuel payments.
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I've been paying into my pension for 37 years now (started at 18, now 55) and still a few years until I retire, hopefully I should have £1 million in my pot, I've sacrificed my wage to do that, my choice I know. Why should I now loose out my paying more tax, from my pension just to help out this abomination of a government, they can F off..
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
To be libellous, it has to be untrue.
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Did you hear what Michael Crick had to say on the matter today?

Crick said that he spoke to between 60 and 80 people who knew Farage when at school and none of them could corroborate the story Lammy referenced.

I’ve no time for Farage at all, but Lammy making the remarks that he did just highlights what a fool he is.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Did you hear what Michael Crick had to say on the matter today?

Crick said that he spoke to between 60 and 80 people who knew Farage when at school and none of them could corroborate the story Lammy referenced.

I’ve no time for Farage at all, but Lammy making the remarks that he did just highlights what a fool he is.
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Nigel Farage: what are schoolboy racism claims – and why have they resurfaced?​


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...oolboy-racism-claims-why-have-they-resurfaced
 
liveandletdive said:
I've been paying into my pension for 37 years now (started at 18, now 55) and still a few years until I retire, hopefully I should have £1 million in my pot, I've sacrificed my wage to do that, my choice I know. Why should I now loose out my paying more tax, from my pension just to help out this abomination of a government, they can F off..
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Did you not claim tax relief from your pension contributions?
 
BlueAnorak said:
Then you are clueless.
The average retirement income of state pension + personal pension for a couple is £592 pounds a week - for an individual £285 a week.
The minimum wage take-home average is £447 a week. Pensioner income is supplemented by pension lump sums, downsizing and savings - all targets for Reeves the Pensioner killer.

(Notes:
1. The Cold winter payment abolition was UNFORGIVABLE for many pensioners.
From a Liebour government too!
2. I suspect Liebour will lose millions of votes from people 60 and over and allowing children to vote wont redress the balance as Pensioners actually vote in large numbers ' wheras barely 50% of yoof vote.
3. You bet your fucking life I have buyers regret. Nothing could be worse than the Tories thought I, but how fucking wrong I was. This government is a fucking train crash. A slow motion version of the Liz Truss government - but ultimately probably more damaging.)
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Agree on the WFA but Clueless, I’m certainly not.
What it comes down to is the definition of “ a modest” pension which is the post I responded to.

Also, we don’t know just yet what the budget next month contains, we are simply discussing rumours.

Time will tell if this Government turns out to be more damaging than Truss, but I very much doubt that
 
mosssideblue said:
Should seize assets and lock the pair of them up
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Blue and true said:
Unsurprisingly, husband and wife are playing the same woe-is-me card. It wasn't their fault that their firm cut corners during a time of grave national emergency to line their own slimy pockets.

Because of course.
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blueinsa said:
Criminal charges should be brought against them and imo, theft and it is theft of that scale should bring time at his majesty’s pleasure.
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Eccles Blue said:
As I read the headline this morning that was my first thought. She won't suffer.
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red 2 hats said:
Sell their assets, their super yachts, then jail the pair of grifting cunts,
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mosssideblue said:
Absolutely. Multi millionaires should not get away with simply closing a company
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Just Tories being Tories.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Did you hear what Michael Crick had to say on the matter today?

Crick said that he spoke to between 60 and 80 people who knew Farage when at school and none of them could corroborate the story Lammy referenced.

I’ve no time for Farage at all, but Lammy making the remarks that he did just highlights what a fool he is.
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I know someone that went to Dulwich College with him who told me otherwise. And 60 to 80 ffs. Can’t Crick count?
 
Leaving the pub yesterday, the whole topic round the bar was Starmer’s speech. Even the 2 young barmen, disgusted. These are the people he is has insulted. Needs to get out and about, test the feeling of the country.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Starmer spoke more about the Hillsborough law than he did on Reform.
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He might have done, but the perception I get looking at the main talking points and media coverage, is it was mainly about reform. Why give them so much attention and spotlight?

most cabinet members mentioned them as well. I could be wrong, but I reckon if you as ask most of the general public what labours policies were mentioned most wouldn’t know
 
mosssideblue said:
How did he insult these two guys?
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I’m not going back asking them … they were insulted, from what I heard, by his inference that anyone concerned about immigration, free speech and lying is “far right” “racist” and has no right to consider voting for Reform.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
He might have done, but the perception I get looking at the main talking points and media coverage, is it was mainly about reform. Why give them so much attention and spotlight?

most cabinet members mentioned them as well. I could be wrong, but I reckon if you as ask most of the general public what labours policies were mentioned most wouldn’t know
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You’re right, it almost seems that Labour just talked about Reform for the full conference. And that’s because who and what is reported on, by our media.

And what have they chosen to report!
 
Could have expanded on the 82p a day we will save on energy bills possibly in 4 years time and the roll.out of the GP appt system which will mean well err... No improvement in getting an appt.

Why such large progress is ignored I dont know :-)
 
Jimmieblue said:
I’m not going back asking them … they were insulted, from what I heard, by his inference that anyone concerned about immigration, free speech and lying is “far right” “racist” and has no right to consider voting for Reform.
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He's not inferred that at all. He's attacked Farage and Reform's utterly disgraceful plan to scrap indefinite leave to remain, but he hasn't labelled Reform voters themselves as racists. All he's said to them is not to fall for Farage's bullshit like many did over Brexit, and that many of those who plan to vote Reform will get fucked over by Farage if he gets in. Starmer most certainly isn't saying you can't have genuine concerns about immigration and anyone thinking that he has said that has probably been gaslit by the likes of the Daily Mail, GB News, and Farage himself
 
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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
He might have done, but the perception I get looking at the main talking points and media coverage, is it was mainly about reform. Why give them so much attention and spotlight?

most cabinet members mentioned them as well. I could be wrong, but I reckon if you as ask most of the general public what labours policies were mentioned most wouldn’t know
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And that's just what the RW press and media (who dominate the UK market) want you to think. There are few people who are prepared to sit through an hour's speech by any politician, so we are dependant on balanced reporting, but that doesn't exist. It was a 58 minute speech and Farage got mentioned every 8 minutes. I bet that is no different to any other reference to a main political opponent.
 
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