The Labour Government

ballbag said:
Who would you blame for it?
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Brexit was entirely the fault of Cameron.
1. The vote was supposed to be advisory only and not binding. A wafer thin majority should not have been used to convert the vote to a binding decision.
2. Cameron did this because he still had a vociferous group in Parliament that would have split the Tories by campaigning for Brexit if he did not action it. Cameron put party above country.
3. He then resigned, leaving others to implement Brexit.
 
KS55 said:
Brexit was entirely the fault of Cameron.
1. The vote was supposed to be advisory only and not binding. A wafer thin majority should not have been used to convert the vote to a binding decision.
2. Cameron did this because he still had a vociferous group in Parliament that would have split the Tories by campaigning for Brexit if he did not action it. Cameron put party above country.
3. He then resigned, leaving others to implement Brexit.
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Even before then he only offered the referendum as a supposed means to settle matters within the party rather than the country. He of course remains insulated from the consequences of his spineless miscalculations and the fecklessness/insanity of some his successors means he gets nowhere near the critique he should.
 
threespires said:
In what way disturbing?
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which part isn't?
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Sadiq Khan / Nelson IV transcript

Sir Sadiq Khan interviewed by Fraser Nelson Labour party conference, Leonardo Hotel, 29 September 2025 Sir Sadiq Khan: I'm incredibly proud of the city. I'm the mayor of the capital city, and I think it’s the greatest city in the world. And I think there's a reason why politicians and commenta...
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mosssideblue said:
BBC News saying Labour have been considering scrapping SD in the budget
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It raises £12bn a year. I can't believe any party would get rid of it on anything other than first properties. There has to be some form of major tax on the "wealthy" if this was true and using SD removel as a sopp to them.

But considering is very far from actioning. I would expect anything and everything is considered at some stage of preparing for a budget. Probably just the media wanting to make Labour look like the Tories.
 
It’s a bit worrying when the idea to boost growth is to extend licensing hours for pubs. Have they not noticed how trends in going out have evolved, people don’t go out to clubs and bars till daft o’clock in the morning on a weekend. The rise of the bottomless brunch and day time clubbing has become more of thing as you can get home at a decent time and not have to right your Sunday off recovering from it.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
It’s a landmark deal with significant implications, it’s our biggest trade deal since leaving the EU.

Will boost our GDP by 4.8 billion and expect around 2,200 new jobs in the uk mainly for aerospace, technology, and manufacturing along with a host of other benefits .

But yeh, let’s be negative about anything Labour does.
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I was interested to learn that this was the first PM led trade delegation to India since the days of Mayday's Premiership which shows exactly how much time the last lot wasted on Brexit and infighting making us so isolated from fast growing markets and their opportunities - thats just mad.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Exactly we're a self sufficient country!

We've got mines for energy.

A thriving manufacturing industry.

Oh...
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Splendid isolation - didn’t work then and won’t work now. Anyhow only another 4 years and Bad Enoch and her cohorts will return and we tall be rich, healthy, educated and happy !! Why didn’t they do all these things in the 14 years they had - must have very busy and forgotten which is understandable.
 
KS55 said:
Brexit was entirely the fault of Cameron.
1. The vote was supposed to be advisory only and not binding. A wafer thin majority should not have been used to convert the vote to a binding decision.
2. Cameron did this because he still had a vociferous group in Parliament that would have split the Tories by campaigning for Brexit if he did not action it. Cameron put party above country.
3. He then resigned, leaving others to implement Brexit.
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Imagine the uproar and anger if we voted to leave and Cameron didn’t implement it. Would have been riots.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Imagine the uproar and anger if we voted to leave and Cameron didn’t implement it. Would have been riots.
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That’s what he should have put up with, if necessary. It’s called leadership and, that particular case, putting country before party. A child of ten could just do whatever was necessary to avoid difficulties but wouldn’t make much of a PM.
 
KS55 said:
That’s what he should have put up with, if necessary. It’s called leadership and, that particular case, putting country before party. A child of ten could just do whatever was necessary to avoid difficulties but wouldn’t make much of a PM.
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He would likely of lost the next election on that basis and for a party that promises to implement the result. It was going to happen sooner or later either way.
 
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