The Labour Party

[carlosthejackal]

It's an overall in general view and accept it would create issues for small businesses.

No way on earth could small businesses operate under some of these suggestions .

 

[Fame Monster]

Plenty of good proposals in the manifesto but unfortunately they won't see the light of day because of the unpopularity and toxicity of some of the other ones, not to mention the possibility of raising £80B in tax without touching income tax/NI/VAT for 95% of people being wildly optimistic.

If Labour are ever going to win a general election again, they need a more centrist manifesto, a new front bench, a complete disassociation/ban on Momentum/Momentum members from the Labour party amongst other things in order to win trust back from the electorate. If they succeed then they can try and put some of the radical policies in the manifesto for the second term. But full on ideology/utopia/fantasy politics will never work unless there's some kind of huge financial collapse along the lines of 2008.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Please don’t even hint I’m a supporter of Johnson.

 

[urban genie]

The IFS has laid heavily into the manifesto as unworkable, yet both the tories in government and as the coalition were highly sceptical of yhe IFS which criticised their methods and finding and is equally seen as too stuck in an economic mindset that is based on UK financial thinking rather than expand it's viewpoint to more open thinking.

In fact they have said johnsons proposals are financially unworkable previously to the tories have said they should to be ignored.

Labours plans would see state investment still lower than several EU countries and internationall increasing state exspediture to around 44% is not radical or even left wing, but in line with most countries.

What it is is a departure from the last 10 years or so and so to many seems radical and extreme, where it is infact just a reversal of austerity, an ideology that has failed.

 

[Mike D]

No way on earth could small businesses operate under some of these suggestions .

I know that do you not think that they know this? its for companies in general.

 

[Mike D]

Please don’t even hint I’m a supporter of Johnson.

Lets be honest its looking like a hung parliament and depending on how the numbers fall then Labour would form a coalition with the SNP being the preferred option. Lib Dems are haemorrhaging votes with a leader who is bat shit crazy with all the charisma of a wet smelly sock.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

One of the worst bits is that landlords (probably evil and greedy) can only put rents up by inflation . Cue a load of people ditching the private landlord sector and people claiming there isn’t enough affordable property to rent anymore especially in London . No shit Sherlock because nobody wants to be a bloody landlord anymore .

This ludicrous policy is absolutely going to massively increase homelessness, it reminds me when rent controls were brought
in years ago, tenants agreeing the rent you ask, then scuttling to the rent tribunals and getting it lowered, the result,
unsurprisingly, was landlords getting shot of their properties as soon as they could, creating a far bigger homeless problem.
It's envy politics that ends exactly the same as all the others, the people conned into believing these economic fairytales
end up on the streets.
And it then becomes the fault of the Tories.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

No but they are offering a referendum where it is an option, one which would most likely romp home now we know all the lies the leave campaign told.

If what you say is correct, then the Libs must be a shoo-in for the GE.
Absolutely storm it, no?

 

[Scottyboi]

If what you say is correct, then the Libs must be a shoo-in for the GE.
Absolutely storm it, no?

Not really no as people are still voting for their normal party regardless of their Brexit view it seems.

Lib dems want to cancel Brexit, Conservatives want to use their deal and leave and Labour are offering you the choice of one or the other which for me is the most sensible option.

All 3 parties are shit scared of what Brexit will do for swaying voters when in reality on the day I reckon most will vote as they usually do, but like i say in my personal opinion Remain would romp home if we had the choice between a deal or remain.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Not really no as people are still voting for their normal party regardless of their Brexit view it seems.

If that's the case, then it seems Libs scrapping Brexit isn't working for them, remainers aren't flocking to them it would seem.

Lib dems want to cancel Brexit, Conservatives want to use their deal and leave and Labour are offering you the choice of one or the other which for me is the most sensible option.

The first two points are entirely correct, the third one isn't, Labour is proposing negotiating a deal involving staying in the CU
and SM, which is remaining, returning to the people and telling them to ignore it, and really remain, then having a referendum based on
remain v remain. It's not really very popular, apparently.

All 3 parties are shit scared of what Brexit will do for swaying voters when in reality on the day I reckon most will vote as they usually do, but like i say in my personal opinion Remain would romp home if we had the choice between a deal or remain.

So therefore, you think Labour will win, as they are offering you what you want, I think you'll be wrong,
but we'll see.