JoeMercer'sWay
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kalouk said:
a shot penalty and he would have had to play it as it ended up.
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a shot penalty and he would have had to play it as it ended up.
Garrinchas---Dog
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Your question makes no sense,do you mean if it had hit Luke's Ball orkalouk said:kalouk said:I have only really watched golf since the Ryder cup so I wondering if someone could answer a question. The Tiger Woods shot that hit the pin, if it had hit Luke Donald and stayed in would he just take it from where it landed. Is it like football where Donald is part of the field of play so to speak?
And this is why women nag, I asked a simple question and you all ignore me. Get your act together and answer the question!! Men!! :)
Luke himself?
If it had hit(Luke's) ball and still gone it the water,then Luke's ball would have been replaced,and Tiger would still be in the water
TGR
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What a joke... They have just effectively changed the rules of golf to stop Tiger Woods getting disqualified - which he most certainly should have been and hit him with only a 2 shot penalty.
Any other player would have been disqualified. I always thought golf was the one sport where the rules were the rules regardless of who you are and that they were upheld 100%.
Even that has now gone...
Any other player would have been disqualified. I always thought golf was the one sport where the rules were the rules regardless of who you are and that they were upheld 100%.
Even that has now gone...
JoeMercer'sWay said:kalouk said:kalouk said:I have only really watched golf since the Ryder cup so I wondering if someone could answer a question. The Tiger Woods shot that hit the pin, if it had hit Luke Donald and stayed in would he just take it from where it landed. Is it like football where Donald is part of the field of play so to speak?
And this is why women nag, I asked a simple question and you all ignore me. Get your act together and answer the question!! Men!! :)
a shot penalty and he would have had to play it as it ended up.
Thank you :)
Graeme McDowell on twitter:
and in reply to a sarcastic question on twitter, 'So signing for a wrong score is ok now?'
Just thought i'd add an opinion of a fellow pro of Tigers.
2 shot penalty for TW for wrong drop. New rule applied for trial by tv. Instead of retrospective DQ, player receives a penalty. Decent rule.
and in reply to a sarcastic question on twitter, 'So signing for a wrong score is ok now?'
it's unknowingly signing for the wrong score. That's what this rule is for.
Just thought i'd add an opinion of a fellow pro of Tigers.
andyhinch
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Wtf? How can they do that.TGR said:What a joke... They have just effectively changed the rules of golf to stop Tiger Woods getting disqualified - which he most certainly should have been and hit him with only a 2 shot penalty.
Any other player would have been disqualified. I always thought golf was the one sport where the rules were the rules regardless of who you are and that they were upheld 100%.
Even that has now gone...
JoeMercer'sWay said:It's a light punishment for cheating however.
Don't think he cheated, just misinterpreted the rules - big difference.
Still, if he broke the rules can't understand why he's not been disqualified for signing an incorrect score card.
JoeMercer'sWay
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homerdog said:JoeMercer'sWay said:It's a light punishment for cheating however.
Don't think he cheated, just misinterpreted the rules - big difference.
Still, if he broke the rules can't understand why he's not been disqualified for signing an incorrect score card.
because he didn't "know" he had, it's there to stop players being DQ'd because TV picks up on things that you wouldn't otherwise notice.
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Are you serious? Could you honestly see the USPGA disqualifying the biggest draw in golf at the moment? Sponsors, TV companies, the great unwashed; they'd all go mental.homerdog said:JoeMercer'sWay said:It's a light punishment for cheating however.
Don't think he cheated, just misinterpreted the rules - big difference.
Still, if he broke the rules can't understand why he's not been disqualified for signing an incorrect score card.
And yes; he should have been disqualified. Signed an incorrect scorecard. The powers that be are hiding behind a rule that covers a competitor unaware of a penalty returning a wrong score. Hmm.
malg
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From what I've heard, Woods actually admitted to it in a conference, and that's where it all started from. Is that true?
Anyway, there's no way he was going to be disqualified. God only knows what will happen if he goes on to win it, there will be a fucking right to do.
Anyway, there's no way he was going to be disqualified. God only knows what will happen if he goes on to win it, there will be a fucking right to do.
Maybe Nike don't want "their" player disqualified and have applied some pressure.homerdog said:JoeMercer'sWay said:It's a light punishment for cheating however.
Don't think he cheated, just misinterpreted the rules - big difference.
Still, if he broke the rules can't understand why he's not been disqualified for signing an incorrect score card.
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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TGR said:What a joke... They have just effectively changed the rules of golf to stop Tiger Woods getting disqualified - which he most certainly should have been and hit him with only a 2 shot penalty.
Any other player would have been disqualified. I always thought golf was the one sport where the rules were the rules regardless of who you are and that they were upheld 100%.
Even that has now gone...
The benefit of being a homemade piece of American Pie, rather than some 14 yr old Chinese slowcoach. No doubt the sponsors have weighed heavily in any decision.
Cheats on his Mrs, and now cheats on his fellow competitors. Is he one of the 670million?
yerwot?
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JoeMercer'sWay said:homerdog said:JoeMercer'sWay said:It's a light punishment for cheating however.
Don't think he cheated, just misinterpreted the rules - big difference.
Still, if he broke the rules can't understand why he's not been disqualified for signing an incorrect score card.
because he didn't "know" he had, it's there to stop players being DQ'd because TV picks up on things that you wouldn't otherwise notice.
why a penalty at all then? He made a conscious decision to do what he did, not like when the ball moves due to wind or gravity.
So golf no better than football in giving in to sponsors, never thought i would see the day. What next, retrospective rule changes?
The Chinese media will have a field-day .
abu13
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bellbuzzer said:JoeMercer'sWay said:homerdog said:Don't think he cheated, just misinterpreted the rules - big difference.
Still, if he broke the rules can't understand why he's not been disqualified for signing an incorrect score card.
because he didn't "know" he had, it's there to stop players being DQ'd because TV picks up on things that you wouldn't otherwise notice.
why a penalty at all then? He made a conscious decision to do what he did, not like when the ball moves due to wind or gravity.
So golf no better than football in giving in to sponsors, never thought i would see the day. What next, retrospective rule changes?
The Chinese media will have a field-day .
Sounds fair enough to me, the rule may have been miss understood however there would have been a referee on hand as well as this playing partners and if they had recognised the error it would have been raised. 2 shot penalty seems about right to me.
JoeMercer'sWay
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bellbuzzer said:JoeMercer'sWay said:homerdog said:Don't think he cheated, just misinterpreted the rules - big difference.
Still, if he broke the rules can't understand why he's not been disqualified for signing an incorrect score card.
because he didn't "know" he had, it's there to stop players being DQ'd because TV picks up on things that you wouldn't otherwise notice.
why a penalty at all then? He made a conscious decision to do what he did, not like when the ball moves due to wind or gravity.
So golf no better than football in giving in to sponsors, never thought i would see the day. What next, retrospective rule changes?
The Chinese media will have a field-day .
Sounds like because they deemed whilst playing his round that he hadn't broken the rules that he technically signed his scorecard correctly.
It's only afterwards when he's admitted dropping it further back than they thought that they've had to go back and review it again, and have deemed that he wasn't aware of the penalty and therefore have applied the original 2 strokes penalty which is the rule for dropping your ball in the wrong place.
Carstairs
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Woods should have been disqualified for submitting an incorrect scorecard, but he hasn't been.
I would lump on him now.
I would lump on him now.
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The thing is he's allowed two club lengths so when it was originally scrutinised it would have appeared that he indeed dropped it within that.JoeMercer'sWay said:bellbuzzer said:JoeMercer'sWay said:because he didn't "know" he had, it's there to stop players being DQ'd because TV picks up on things that you wouldn't otherwise notice.
why a penalty at all then? He made a conscious decision to do what he did, not like when the ball moves due to wind or gravity.
So golf no better than football in giving in to sponsors, never thought i would see the day. What next, retrospective rule changes?
The Chinese media will have a field-day .
Sounds like because they deemed whilst playing his round that he hadn't broken the rules that he technically signed his scorecard correctly.
It's only afterwards when he's admitted dropping it further back than they thought that they've had to go back and review it again, and have deemed that he wasn't aware of the penalty and therefore have applied the original 2 strokes penalty which is the rule for dropping your ball in the wrong place.
For me if he comes out and says he did drop it within the specified distance then fair enough. Anything else then he should be dq'd.
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Tiger Woods is the Manchester United of golf. The guy is a 24 carat twat. He gets to sign a WRONG scorecard and does NOT get DQed. Some 14 year old kid plays slow and he gets a penalty. What a joke!! Kind of like the officiating in the Arse v Norwaich today...........
A few years ago some journeyman schuck was 3rd or 4th going into the last round at The British Open. He made some error and signed a wrong scorecard, guess what?? He got bounced......
A few years ago some journeyman schuck was 3rd or 4th going into the last round at The British Open. He made some error and signed a wrong scorecard, guess what?? He got bounced......
Surely though, if he hadn't been hit with the two shot penalty at the time of the scorecard being signed, then he hasn't signed for a wrong scorecard. Or is the penalty administered automatically at the time of the offence, even if it hadn't been spotted by the officials at that time ? It's hard to argue in black and white that he'd signed for the wrong scorecard at the end of his round yesterday
kalouk said:kalouk said:I have only really watched golf since the Ryder cup so I wondering if someone could answer a question. The Tiger Woods shot that hit the pin, if it had hit Luke Donald and stayed in would he just take it from where it landed. Is it like football where Donald is part of the field of play so to speak?
And this is why women nag, I asked a simple question and you all ignore me. Get your act together and answer the question!! Men!! :)
Iirc you only get a penalty if you hit yourself or your own equipment. So if Tiger Woods hit himself, his bag, or his caddy he would get a 1 stroke penalty and play the ball as it lies (so yes in golf if your ball hits a tree and it flies back and hits you in the face you get a penalty). If he hit Luke Donald he would just play the ball from wherever it ended up without a penalty. Unless his ball was on the green before he played it. Then if he hit Luke donald, luke donald's ball, or the flagstick he would get a 2 stroke penalty.