The Piccadilly Gardens Problem - new development proposal (P32)

TCIB said:
That concrete thing is ugly as sin. Me and the missus were sat on the grass in summer causing no hassle and were told to finish our beer quick as it was not allowed.
On the far otherside is the bit where the piss heads still sit and they never got told, they were loud crude and just as piss heads are in town.

A couple with 1 bottle each of craft beer eating a sarni having a kiss and cuddle should be left alone, tell the effing scrotes.

In the day on the grass you get a nice mix of people in general, should be well lit at night with lots of relaxing cafe cum bars with nice outdoor seating all around.
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All the clubs in town should be shut down and renovated into cafe bars, town needs a face lift in general not just the gardens, the less clubs the less scrum knocking about. If town had more culture about it the less likely all the cunts would make an appearance.

The homeless is becoming an issue now as well, before you could just gracefully ignore them whilst now they're coming up to you asking for money like they do in Liverpool.
Also they've increased in numbers as well, I'm sure of it.
 
I'm sure Pat Karney our council spokesman for everything ,will be shocked that most on here hate his councils attempt at a playground for scrotes and lowlife after they have worked so hard to destroy a once colourfull part of manchester
They have spent millions of OUR taxes creating this modern masterpiece you should be greatfull ,that we have such a forward thinking council looking after us
 
A mate of mine was working for EDAW down in London at the time that they won the competition to design this monstrosity. He wasn't involved in the design , but I recall he was quite chuffed his colleagues had won.

I told him at the time that within 5 years of being built it would look like a piece of East Berlin circa 1980...
 
Yeah, super clubs have had their day i think in Manchester. Not because i have grown out of them, well there is that but i think everyone see's it is just nicer.
I admit i love the northern quarter, i mince around the cocktail bars there all day and night quiet happily.
 
Wasn't the point of that piece of shit simply to prevent watching the met roll by? I'd say that's stupid anyway. Sit there (why) look to the right and you'll see it anyway regardless. The old one used to have grass and flowers and an actual fountain. This one has turf laid on concrete which goes bald quickly, a fountain that would be better placed in a theme park, full of dickheads, a massive concrete monstrosity. Who thought of this? String them up.
 
I think the big concern is that it's so close to Portland St, where every second door is an entrance to a hotel lobby. People getting off the train at Piccadilly are getting a dreadful first impression. It was far nicer when it was grass - even though it was obviously harder to maintain.
I do wonder who does the thinking at Manchester Planning. They've been fucking the place up, without a trace of sensitivity, for years, now.
With one of the most well-regarded art faculties in the world, let alone the UK, right on their doorstep, they still manage to make a pig's abortion of Picadilly Gdns, erect a godawful monstrosity like the B of the Bang and don't even get me started on all those years that the Big Wheel was overshadowing the Tilted Windmills on Exchange Sq.
 
NeilYoungIsBack said:
A mate of mine was working for EDAW down in London at the time that they won the competition to design this monstrosity. He wasn't involved in the design , but I recall he was quite chuffed his colleagues had won.

I told him at the time that within 5 years of being built it would look like a piece of East Berlin circa 1980...
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So a London based company designed the heart of Manchester, enough said.
 
BrianW said:
I would suggest:

1. Demolish that hideous wall, using volunteer labour if necessary.
2. Turn the 'gardens' back into an actual garden instead of a mass of concrete.
3. Play classical music through loudspeakers 24/7/365. Scrotes can't abide classical music and would soon find somewhere else to gather.
4. Put anyone misbehaving in the area in the stocks, and allow people to hurl rotten vegetables at them for a charge of £1 a go.

Only the last proposal would require legislation.
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A man after my own heart, why they ever changed ii is beyond me.
 
It's an embarrassment to our City. The Planning Officers and Councillors should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Maybe we need the Rangers fans to make a swift return and dismantle it accordingly
 
its an absolute dump, have to walk through it most days, druggies everywhere there especially at night. Its not even a garden. there appears to be a lot more homeless people in manchester now swell
 
It's an eyesore and nothing more than a bus station with a stupid wall and patches of grass, but then the whole approach from malmaison down is pretty shabby.

For me what they need to do is create a southern bus/coach terminus (similar as shuedhill services northern bus routes) next to Picadilly station and get all the buses out of the way, then create a proper gardens or piazza style square but it would be a logistical nightmare changing it from the way it is set up now. they need to remove the wall at least and make it a gardens again at least.

On a side note the old gardens was a muggers hotspot and not nice to walk through at night either, it just looked better than it is now
 
As an 'out of towner' with no biased opinion on Manchester one way or the other, I'd have to agree that Piccadilly Gardens is awful. A half scrub grass, half concrete mess of an open space and a complete eyesore. Every time I ever see it, it's populated only with wino's, scallies, or, if it's a weekend, people protesting about Israel or other themes du jour. The whole place needs bulldozing, trees planting and enclosing
 
I remember the old gardens, it was great in the spring and summer, after a night/morning on the lash it started coming light at 4am to 5am, we used to sit on those benches waiting for the first bus/train back to ashton, used to see blackbirds, blue tits, chaffinches , squirrels etc, shame they had to concrete it over.

Do agree the old gardens did attract some loonballs, but it was a bit of green in the City.
 
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