Skashion
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Thoroughly enjoying this. :-)
The Plane That Saved Britain
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kinkysleftfoot
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Love this guys passion for the plane.......and the guys that flew them in the war were amazing
another generation
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FFS. Thought this started at nine.
Skashion
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Bloody superb. Excellent tribute to the Mosquito. Hope more people now appreciate what a special thing it was. One of my other favourite warbirds that's forgotten about got a mention as well; the Typhoon (no, not the modern Eurofighter), the Hawker Typhoon ground-attack aircraft which I don't think many people at all have even heard of.
Im speechless, what a programme, when he got his wish to fly in the mosquito and his enthusiasm was bubbling over me and the Mrs were nearly blubbing
What amazed me though was how did they get an anti tank gun into it to hunt U Boats
Fantastic
What amazed me though was how did they get an anti tank gun into it to hunt U Boats
Fantastic
Bilboblue
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another generation said:
Go to Ch4+1 then, 135 on Sky
another generation
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Mum worked on the Tempest, but I don't think she was on the Typhoon.Skashion said:
Am i right in saying that it was the rocket firing Typhoons that stopped the Panzers from reaching the German front line shortly after the Normandy landings, they dared not move in daylight as the Typhoons were straight on to themSkashion said:
Skashion
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Another superb aircraft from Hawker.another generation said:Mum worked on the Tempest, but I don't think she was on the Typhoon.Skashion said:
Skashion
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Depends on what you mean by shortly after, the immediate hours of D-Day do you mean? Most of the paralysis was caused by Hitler's decision to bring most of the tanks under his direct control, and everyone being afraid to wake him. Then Rommel was in Berlin for his wife's birthday. However, some tanks had local freedom of movement. Some were held up by the feats of Pegasus Bridge: <a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_Bridge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_Bridge</a> However, yes, there was a huge general fear of moving German tanks by daylight because of the threat of ground-attack aircraft, the main one being the Typhoon.blue underpants said:
I'd say the main credit though, would have to go to Operation Fortitude: <a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fortitude" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fortitude</a> which utterly fooled Hitler and who kept his tanks back from Normandy thinking the Normandy invasion to be a feint because of a spectacularly good double agent called Garbo: <a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Pujol_Garcia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Pujol_Garcia</a>
another generation
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Apart from giving my Mum something to work on (!), it was an improved version of the Typhoon, as far as I know. Suppose I'd better get round to reading the book. Armed reconnaissance.blue underpants said:
I have read about Garbo and Fortitude, the allies put Patton in charge of a fake army opposite the Pas De Calais thinking the main invasion would come there the Germans were caught on 2 frontsSkashion said:
When eventually they realised it was the real thing it was too late but did try to rush armour to Normandy it was then that the Typhoon came into its own
Tuearts right boot
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crazyg said:
An exceptionally versatile engine,originally normally aspirated so was suspect to g force in the carbs.The germans had fuel injection on the messerschits so had a slight upperhand.Everytime the Bosch updated the messer engine the boffins at RR just kept tuning it up.
This programme is utterly brilliant.
Skashion
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Aye, it certainly did, but I wouldn't have said it was crucial to the success of D-Day or indeed the invasion, but it inflicted a lot of damage. Many vehicles and soldiers that would have lived to fight another day, to counterattack, to slow the allied advance, perished at the hands of the Typhoon.blue underpants said:
I suppose one of the main reasons I love both of these aircraft is that they inflicted maximum damage on military targets for very low civilian causalities because they were precise and could identify and hit military targets accurately and ruthlessly. They were one of the cleanest and efficient ways of fighting a dirty and bloody war that unfortunately had to be won for the sake of the freedom of Europe and to put a stop to Nazi genocide. This is the same reason why I love the incredible success of British intelligence during the war; Bletchley Park, the double-cross system; the deception operations; the commando raids; the SAS. Simply brilliant. So many more could have died were it not for those brilliant men and women who inflicted maximum damage for minimal loss of innocents.
Gelsons Dad
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Didn't see the program but as my dad flew Mossies Tempest and Typhoon in the war I don't think there is much I don't already know about them from is stories. The Mosquito was very good but it didn't save Britain. That accolade should go to the Hurricane as it kept us in the war despite the Spitfire being the darling of the BoB.
Skashion
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No it didn't, the Spitfire shot down more Bf 109s than the Hurricane. So, if any aircraft deserves it, it IS the Spitfire. However, the reality is that a successful invasion of Britain would have been improbable.Gelsons Dad said:
Gelsons Dad
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Skashion said:
In the Battle of Britain, Hurricanes scored the highest number of RAF victories, accounting for 1,593 out of the 2,739 total claimed. So although the spitfires claimed more 109s it was the bomber kills that did for fritz.
But it's a moot point and not one worth arguing about. I've had this discussion with RAF historians several times and the argument is always circular.