The Popes visit to Britain.

[peacefrog]

Here's an 11th Commandment for you:

Thou Shalt not rape children and thou shalt not cover up any incidents of child rape within thy church.

Any good?

Nope. Your 11th commandment is actually two separate ones which are both covered by the ninth and tenth. Try again.

So the church doesn't even follow the commandments? Wow, that's pretty scandalous that is.

 

[1_barry_conlon]

As a Catholic I was initially appalled by some of the comments on here: not because there were some pretty lame jokes, any number of posters who clearly think they're funnier than they actually are and the usual 'Aren't-I-great-because-I-actually-believe-in-nothing?' mob.

Catholics are an easy target in Britain; have been for 500 years and always will be, so it's nothing new, but I very much doubt that anyone on here would have dared to be so critical of Islam or Rastafarianism, the Dalai Lama or the Chief Rabbi.

What now makes me laugh at and pity some of the posters in equal measure is that they get so riled by something they claim is so irrelevant - be it organised religion, Christianity in general or any or all of the following: the God, the Pope or Catholicism in particular.

In an age when respect is a much-coveted commodity, paradoxically it's now reserved for those who have either not earned it or do not deserve it: the flotsam and jetsam of reality TV, talent show fodder and idols such as Wayne Rooney with, inevitably enough, their feet of clay.

Feel free to line up alongside noted attention-seekers like Ian Paisley and Peter Tatchell (neither of whom have ever come up with a worthwhile idea in their respective sorry lives), surround yourself with the trappings of conspicuous consumerism, even though no credo states that happiness equals such 'necessities' as a fortnight in Florida, a BMW or a 40" flat screen TV, or take issue with the Ten Commandments (and perhaps dream up an eleventh, but be warned: you'll be hard pushed), but personally I think there may be something more.

Have a discussion by all means, but whether you have Faith or not, at least show a modicum of 'respect' towards those who have.

Here's an 11th Commandment for you:

Thou Shalt not rape children and thou shalt not cover up any incidents of child rape within thy church.

Any good?

I thought Tatchell trying to arrest Mugabe was a good idea. Would you not agree that taking out a fascist dictator is a good idea?

 

[peacefrog]

As a Catholic I was initially appalled by some of the comments on here: not because there were some pretty lame jokes, any number of posters who clearly think they're funnier than they actually are and the usual 'Aren't-I-great-because-I-actually-believe-in-nothing?' mob.

Catholics are an easy target in Britain; have been for 500 years and always will be, so it's nothing new, but I very much doubt that anyone on here would have dared to be so critical of Islam or Rastafarianism, the Dalai Lama or the Chief Rabbi.

What now makes me laugh at and pity some of the posters in equal measure is that they get so riled by something they claim is so irrelevant - be it organised religion, Christianity in general or any or all of the following: the God, the Pope or Catholicism in particular.

In an age when respect is a much-coveted commodity, paradoxically it's now reserved for those who have either not earned it or do not deserve it: the flotsam and jetsam of reality TV, talent show fodder and idols such as Wayne Rooney with, inevitably enough, their feet of clay.

Feel free to line up alongside noted attention-seekers like Ian Paisley and Peter Tatchell (neither of whom have ever come up with a worthwhile idea in their respective sorry lives), surround yourself with the trappings of conspicuous consumerism, even though no credo states that happiness equals such 'necessities' as a fortnight in Florida, a BMW or a 40" flat screen TV, or take issue with the Ten Commandments (and perhaps dream up an eleventh, but be warned: you'll be hard pushed), but personally I think there may be something more.

Have a discussion by all means, but whether you have Faith or not, at least show a modicum of 'respect' towards those who have.

Talking about the trappings of wealth. You just have to look at the gold and jewels that are dripping off the clergy. I bet if you were to liquidate the catholic churches assets you could feed the third world for a century. There's an irony in there somewhere but I'm too tired to look for it right now. Good night, God bless.

 

[mrt4919]

A blue for over 40 odd years and a catholic for longer. A sad day to read my religion insulted and the butt of cheap jibes on a web site dedicated to my football club.
An earlier poster was right this would have been pulled with anti semetic or Islam insults.
The christians in this country are the only realistic western philosopy standing against a tide of aggresive muslim fundamentalism that has taken root through immigration over the last 30 years.
Dont care....... you will in about 20 years time.

 

[Lucky Toma]

I think you must be pretty ignorant.

With regard to the Pope, however, let me refer you to my post on last week's thread on the exact same subject:

Maybe there are valid reasons to object to the Catholic church and it's teachings.
I for one find it pretty distasteful and I don't regard myself as any of the above, but if you feel like the Pope or your church is beyond criticism or accountability then that's your prerogative. Just don't expect an organisation that operates an entrenched discrimination against women, gays and non catholics to be given an easy ride from those who choose to exercise their critical faculties.

Can this be made a sticky? So whenever a debate on Catholicism rages on here again half of the people involved can simply refer the other half to it.

 

[ElanJo]

Here's an 11th Commandment for you:

Thou Shalt not rape children and thou shalt not cover up any incidents of child rape within thy church.

Any good?

Nope. Your 11th commandment is actually two separate ones which are both covered by the ninth and tenth. Try again.

You can make 2 Commandments out of it if you like.

Child rape is only covered in the 10th if you think that parents actually own their children. They don't. And if you want to go down this route then you'd probably have to say that the commandments (at least the latter half) are largely redundant.

And a cover up doesn't really break the 9th. If you don't allow anyone to ask questions then you don't need to lie.

In any case making a better 10 Commandments than what is in the Bible is a piece of piss.

 

[Barcon]

Is the phrase "I'm so hungry, I could eat a catholic" still used?

 

[mcfcliam]

Fucking hate the pope.

Worthless paedo who gets publicity for doing fuck all but wave to crowds and sit on his arse all day and spout his bullshit about the holocaust being a Jewish myth.

Not to mention his homophobic rants as well.

Tosser!

 

[pink ice]

The reason why a lot of English do slag off Catholicism is because the country has been subjected to it and so directly affected by it. For hundreds of years Europe was oppressed by the Catholic church, and whilst small sections of it did good and kept their holy vows, a whole lot of others did not and are still not. The whole reason (apart from a King's selfish desire to get rid of a wife) why England seperated from Rome was because it was oppressive and corrupt, particularly at the higher levels. They burned heretics, took money to excuse sins, sired children. After the reformation, things took a better turn so obviously a lot of people are going to think that Catholicism is still a bad thing.

Now we are in modern times and things have changed massively. Some religions have changed with the times, others haven't. Islam and Catholicism are ones who refuse to change, and whilst I have no respect for either of their practises and beliefs, I am more likely to target Catholicism because it is situated in Europe where things have progressed vastly yet they still refuse to change with the times. I think it's disgusting that the Pope does not back the ideas of using condoms in Africa, if he knows people are going to be promiscous on a continent where HIV is prominent, what's more important, the life of the person now or the life of someone that might not ever be? I'm not even going to discuss peadophilia in the church, you just can't defend it!

Have you heard the story of the little girl in Brazil who was raped by her stepfather? She was pregnant with twins and had to have an abortion, but the Catholic church condemned those involved for killing a life, when if they hadn't have done the little girl would have surely died. Not only that, but one Bishop said that those who performed the abortion and the girl's mother had committed more of a serious crime than that of the father who had raped a child.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1883598,00.html

Now I have no problem with every day Catholics, nor do I with Muslims, at the end of the day if it makes them happy to practise their religion and it does not interfer with my life, I don't really care. But I absolutely despise the institution of religions that allow such horrible things to happen. And I know that a lot of religions have bad apples, but the Catholic Church tries to cover it up, and it's just sickening.

 

[Henry Chinaski]

Do people in here think Muslims condone paedophillia? The prophet Mohammed had a 6 year old wife and consummated the marriage when she was 9!

That Mohammed is a tosser and a fraud, I would love to brick him, he is a useless paedo prick! If he was around today he would get one between the eyes, and I don't mean the jiz of a twelve year old!

Of course I don't mean this, I have A modicum of respect, but the things I wrote about Mohammed are just a snippet of what has been written about the pope!