The Prime Ministers Speech today

[@BluePhil8]

By taking the lowest earners out of tax and creating more jobs? The bit about gutting the public sector is simply untrue.

No it isn't. I work for a local government authority and we have had to cut over £60,000,000 in the last 3 years. So many redundancies and the work just gets piled on to other workers. The front facing services are the least hit so the public think everything is normal but the admin staff/behind the scenes people are being fucked in the arse like you wouldn't believe

how are you being fucked in the arse may i ask?

My department has been subject to consultation and restructure over the last 3 years.

Usually during the consultation they will say "it's fine, their will be 3 redundancies and then the team will he structured like this and that will be fine. These pieces of work will go here here and here".

2 months later rinse and repeat until full teams and expertise are lost as people get sick of the uncertainty. Once certain people leave they take their knowledge with them, that doesn't get passed on to the people taking over.

Currently I've had about 3 hours of training, no help from management.

 

[@BluePhil8]

No it isn't. I work for a local government authority and we have had to cut over £60,000,000 in the last 3 years. So many redundancies and the work just gets piled on to other workers. The front facing services are the least hit so the public think everything is normal but the admin staff/behind the scenes people are being fucked in the arse like you wouldn't believe

how are you being fucked in the arse may i ask?

My department has been subject to consultation and restructure over the last 3 years.

Usually during the consultation they will say "it's fine, their will be 3 redundancies and then the team will he structured like this and that will be fine. These pieces of work will go here here and here".

2 months later rinse and repeat until full teams and expertise are lost as people get sick of the uncertainty. Once certain people leave they take their knowledge with them, that doesn't get passed on to the people taking over.

Currently I've had about 3 hours of training, no help from management.

And I say consultation loosely. There is no liaising between workers and management. They just make the decisions without a full understanding of the actual work done at ground level.

 

[hilts]

No it isn't. I work for a local government authority and we have had to cut over £60,000,000 in the last 3 years. So many redundancies and the work just gets piled on to other workers. The front facing services are the least hit so the public think everything is normal but the admin staff/behind the scenes people are being fucked in the arse like you wouldn't believe

how are you being fucked in the arse may i ask?

My department has been subject to consultation and restructure over the last 3 years.

Usually during the consultation they will say "it's fine, their will be 3 redundancies and then the team will he structured like this and that will be fine. These pieces of work will go here here and here".

2 months later rinse and repeat until full teams and expertise are lost as people get sick of the uncertainty. Once certain people leave they take their knowledge with them, that doesn't get passed on to the people taking over.

Currently I've had about 3 hours of training, no help from management.

In fairness mate i probably have many years experience over you and what it comes down to is this, look at your wages, look at the hours you work and ask is it worth it, if not find somewhere else, the public sector is getting a bit of a reality check, nearly every manager i have met as been a complete waste of time

 

[Mustard Dave]

In my voting lifetime , I cant remember The Sun newspaper calling it wrong.
It seems to me that The Sun are backing Cameron.
The saying is "If you lose The Sun you lose the country".
Imagine Balls and Milliband let loose in The Treasury !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If your lifetime revolves around what the Sun thinks. Imagine letting them morans make your little brains mind up

I just feel sorry for you

 

[Mustard Dave]

No idea what to do come next general election.

It's the first time I'm eligible to vote.

I've always fancied myself as quite liberal. Probably would have voted Labour.

Cameron is gutting the public sector and as is the Tory way, the poor stay poor whilst the rich get richer. However out of all the candidates he is the one I want to lead the country. He's educated, articulate, passionate in speeches (the one to the UN last week was excellent) and in general a strong leader.

Milliband just doesn't do it for me. I would be embarrassed to have him lead the United Kingdom. Sick of seeing him point scoring and taking childish digs at Cameron. I'd rather vote on the strengths of a party rather than the weaknesses of others and at the moment Labour aren't persuading me they have a plan.

By taking the lowest earners out of tax and creating more jobs? The bit about gutting the public sector is simply untrue.

No it isn't. I work for a local government authority and we have had to cut over £60,000,000 in the last 3 years. So many redundancies and the work just gets piled on to other workers. The front facing services are the least hit so the public think everything is normal but the admin staff/behind the scenes people are being fucked in the arse like you wouldn't believe

What local government authority are you talking about? What budget did you have before? What did your department to save money in other areas? I have worked long enough in the public sector (both as full time staff and as a consultant) to know that waste is phenomenal.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

That's a bit churlish, too true he received the same NHS treatment as anyone else. Of course he maybe wouldn't have had to wait 5 hours like the rest, but that's because he's more important than you and me. And of course they would have to be separated from other patients for security reasons. And it's not his fault that the head consultant just happened to be a long standing family friend. And how could he know that they would be randomly selected to test the new Fortnum & Masons menu.

Pfft!

You're such a cynic WE. Next you'll be suggesting that the Royal Family weren't subject to rationing like the rest of the population during and immediately after WW2.

Actually, they insisted upon it. The advantage they had most obviously didn't was from the gardens of the palaces or game from the estates, but they did receive the same rations as everyone else.

Of course they did.

You're a bright bloke and a good poster, plus you seem to have a pretty good handle on human nature.

Pulling from all those aforementioned resources, where has that sort of behaviour ever existed in the rich and powerful?

 

[Henkeman]

You're such a cynic WE. Next you'll be suggesting that the Royal Family weren't subject to rationing like the rest of the population during and immediately after WW2.

Actually, they insisted upon it. The advantage they had most obviously didn't was from the gardens of the palaces or game from the estates, but they did receive the same rations as everyone else.

Of course they did.

You're a bright bloke and a good poster, plus you seem to have a pretty good handle on human nature.

Pulling from all those aforementioned resources, where has that sort of behaviour ever existed in the rich and powerful?

When they are proper leaders? Its the exception rather than the norm, I agree completely. But I rather suspect those two people, George VI and Queen Elizabeth, were a bit unusual. It doesn't mean the Royal Family per se are, not in the slightest. But those two people, yes I rather think it was what they were about.