The Prince Harry "Paki" video

[stonerblue]

how come if you call some one from australia an aussie,afghanistan an afghan,greece a greek,its ok but if you call someone from pakistan a paki its racist,no way am i a racist i ahve plenty of asian friends and some jamaican and african friends to ,but there are to many do gooders and politically correct people in this country its all tongue in cheek remarks for fuck sake

Because of the history of the term, it was/is used as a racist term. People from Australia who get to be educated, earn a crust and travel abroad tend not to be darked skinned. paki is a disgusting term, used by a disgusting, priveliged, privatly educated huray Henry. Who leaches of the tax payer, willingly becomes part of the government spin about the stupid war and generally swans around like the world owes him a living...MANY of those PAKIs he so willingly belittled would put him to shame with there intelegence, work ethic, morals and manners.

this, twice.

 

[coleridge]

I don’t care what anybody says, the term “little paki friend”, to me is a derogatory racist remark, if you said that to a Pakistani you would either get smacked or arrested, one of the two and deserve it.

Some off you lads need to get with it this is not 1970 times have changed, you cant use phrases like that anymore, every year the thought police, which incidentally is a police advisory panel, issue the police with words which are now deemed as socially unacceptable because minority groups advise them they find these words offensive, and believe me paki has been on that list for a good few years, if you use that word in a public place you will be arrested, it does not matter that you think it is acceptable, you will find yourself sat in a cell and end up with your DNA on a database.

And a word of caution, the police are under pressure like never before to achieve more convictions for crimes classed as race hate crimes, (you have been warned).

Lee

I understand and emphasise with what you are saying. However, I am not sure that the police are spending much time searching for 'P-word' offenders, although I know it is certainly not tolerated within the GMP, as my Pakistani DS cousin would tell you.

With regard to 'times changing', we can all sometimes forget what has never been acceptable, when used in a threatening tone.

For example, in circa 1985, first game of the season away at Coventry with an 'Asian' referee, I can assure that, beyond McIlroy's equaliser, there was nothing I enjoyed about that day when my fellow blues were singing 'Get the Paki of the pitch' for most of the match.

Take care. It's good see so many sensible fellow posters.

 

[coleridge]

Good post Coleridge but these tools would rather blame Asians when a white kid calls one a 'paki' as opposed to admit the white kid was in the wrong, they even have a name for this and it's called 'pc gone mad'. They use this 'pc gone mad' phrase whenever a white person is accussed of something or has done something wrong. White people never do anything wrong, see, it's just 'pc gone mad' and people like me, who abhore hatred and predujudice of any kind are labelled as 'pc' or 'do gooders' or whatever.

Still I know who's the better human being here, I make no apologies for not being a bitter, racist, women hating, homophobic get.

For some inexplicable reason, that sounds so much better coming from you rather than me. Thank you.

 

[BimboBob]

I am half Pakistani(my dad was born there) and i have never thought that Paki was a bad term.Ok i was born here,was brought up in a mainly white area but i was still called it(still do get called it by mates).

People need to lighten up a bit here,if used in a jokey way it is fine.If used with anger then it's not.Same with a load of other words.If i get called "Baldy" by my mates they are taking the piss,if someone i don't know uses it then they are being offensive.

Scot = Scotland,Brit = Britain so why not Paki = Pakistan?

And it is not rascist.Used in a rascist context then it is.Used as banter between mates it isn't.

 

[coleridge]

Context is all, and Harry said it to the lad's face.

This is what I don't get about this whole story. The above seems to have been accepted as fact by the majority of people, so I can only assume that most people haven't even bothered watching the video. He didn't say it to his face; he said it under his breath and from quite a considerable distance. And I keep hearing that Ahmed has never made a complaint about this incident. Well, I would hazard a guess that he didn't even know it had happened until this video surfaced three years later on Saturday night.

I'm not sure what point I'm trying to make, other than to correct the assertion that this was a nickname that was used out in the open and to the lad's face. I doubt the privileged ponce would ever have the bollocks to actually do that.

And 'Paki' clearly isn't the same as Brit, Scot or Aussie, and I find it quite sad that there are actually fellow City fans still in existence who think it is.

DB

Sensible comments as ever. I was merely trying to give Harry the benefit of the doubt, which we all deserve. It also does no favours to British muslims to lambast a member of the Royal family when his parents [whether natural or not] have been noticeable supporters of Islam in a generally unsympathetic establishment. Best wishes.

 

[coleridge]

how come if you call some one from australia an aussie,afghanistan an afghan,greece a greek,its ok but if you call someone from pakistan a paki its racist,no way am i a racist i ahve plenty of asian friends and some jamaican and african friends to ,but there are to many do gooders and politically correct people in this country its all tongue in cheek remarks for fuck sake

Because of the history of the term, it was/is used as a racist term. People from Australia who get to be educated, earn a crust and travel abroad tend not to be darked skinned. paki is a disgusting term, used by a disgusting, priveliged, privatly educated huray Henry. Who leaches of the tax payer, willingly becomes part of the government spin about the stupid war and generally swans around like the world owes him a living...MANY of those PAKIs he so willingly belittled would put him to shame with there intelegence, work ethic, morals and manners.

this, twice.

Brass Neck

What you say amongst friends is a matter for you. If you were insulting them, I am sure that they would 'put you straight'. But the current debate regards general usage of the P word. Most people [obviously not you] who use it and think it's not offensive do not even know any Asians beyond the taxi driver and the waiter. I surmise that you are a South Manchester lad like me. I was also brought up with Jamaicans and West Africans. Indeed, as I remember, all my three children came into the world at St Mary's seeing a beautiful 'black' midwife as the first person they had ever laid eyes on. On no occasions in my 43 years do I remember any of my Afro-Caribbean friends using the 'N' word in my presence. A few of 'us' use the P word as a joke on occasion between ourselves [but not in 'mixed' company], but begin called it by people that I do not even know is never 'a laugh' and does nobody any good.

 

[coleridge]

I am half Pakistani(my dad was born there) and i have never thought that Paki was a bad term.Ok i was born here,was brought up in a mainly white area but i was still called it(still do get called it by mates).

People need to lighten up a bit here,if used in a jokey way it is fine.If used with anger then it's not.Same with a load of other words.If i get called "Baldy" by my mates they are taking the piss,if someone i don't know uses it then they are being offensive.

Scot = Scotland,Brit = Britain so why not Paki = Pakistan?

And it is not rascist.Used in a rascist context then it is.Used as banter between mates it isn't.

Thanks for this and salaam, 'Baldy'. I thought I was saying this but maybe not. It might all seem blindly obvious to you and I, but you will see that there are obviously people, even on this forum, who do not seem to grasp what is offensive and for what reasons. I hope that the matter has run its course today so that we can get back to some discussions about MCFC, which would be a blessed relief. I am going over to the transfer forum now to see what lunatic theory has raised its head today and so that I can dream of Kaka in sky blue... CTID

 

[BingoBango]

I couldn't agree more with Coleridge, Dubai Blue, TMQ and others. Sense breaks out on BM, eh?

I'm genuinely surprised that some people believe that this foul term is comparable to the benign 'Brit'. I can't help feeling that those arguing that they are comparable are being wilfully obscurantist and spurious.