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<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2009/jul/14/manchestercity-carlos-tevez" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-c ... rlos-tevez</a>


All he needs to know is the FA and The Premier League have OK'd everything .....rag shit stirring twat ....
 
Pathetic bastard thing. I stopped buying it ages ago. It is as bad as The Minger. Here's another trashy article.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/jul/14/manchester-city-carlos-tevez-emmanuel-adebayor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... l-adebayor</a>
 
he makes absolutely no case as to why Joorabchian should reveal who the money is payable to. he should be ashamed of himself, it's a reasonable area to look at, but this is just garbage dressed up with a couple of quotes that don't support his moral outrage whatsoever.
 
doesnt even seem like he has done much research either.... these comments suggest it was Kia who held the rights ....

<a class="postlink" href="http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/33745/default.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/33745/default.aspx</a>

""I did very good business...I paid cheaply for Carlitos," Joorabchian told the Argentine sports daily Ole in an interview published on Tuesday.

"When we bought him for $20 million everyone said that was too expensive. But he's worth much more.

"As a person he's incredible... For me, Carlitos has no price, not 50 nor 60 million.

"It's an incredible story... He started playing football in a very poor area. He came out of Fort Apache," said Joorabchian referring to the dangerous shanty in which Tevez grew up.

"We began (our liaison) with a title at Corinthians (in Brazil), he saved West Ham (from relegation) and won six titles (trophies) with United.

"This is the start of a new project, starting from nothing, because City has nothing today, but Carlitos is a winner."


that guy surely cant have had a successful career in sport journalism ... can he? its SO bad !
 
Daz_Blue said:
rag shit stirring twat ....
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He's actually a city fan. He's an investigative reporter and his job is to write about the dodgy 'behind the scenes' stuff in sport so it's not a surprise he's written about this. It's nothing to do with Tevez and now we own him it's over but you've got to admit the whole affair hasn't been one of the premierships moral highlights.

Bluemoon115 said:
I'm guessing the editor/moderator doesn't particularly like Mr. Conn(t)
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There isn't much moderation on the Guardian boards - unless you're really abusive. Comments go up straight away.
 
N-Word-Joe said:
doesnt even seem like he has done much research either.... these comments suggest it was Kia who held the rights ....
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Just about every source suggests that MSI owned Tevez. Kia is a director and the main spokesman for MSI but there are other people who back it.

There's even a suggestion that Roman has a stake which would make the 'fact' that Tevez turned down Chelsea interesting.

They've even got an odd website which gives very little away: http://www.mediasportsinvestments.com/
 
the article was still rubbish IMO. typical conn, all sound and fury signifying very little moral substance indeed. joorabchian should reveal the shareholders? why? they're a private concern. there is no moral obligation on him whatsoever, and as far as I can see, no suggestion of anything undue being concealed. It might very well be a good idea for FIFA to draw up guidelines or legislation in this area, but I guess an article calling for that wouldn't be enough of a 'hook'.
 
Daz_Blue said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2009/jul/14/manchestercity-carlos-tevez

All he needs to know is the FA and The Premier League have OK'd everything .....rag shit stirring twat ....
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It would be interesting to see if he made a similar article over the past two years where United have been paying the same two 'anonymous' organization to loan Tevez.

I am going to take a wild guess; probably not.
 
Pam said:
Pathetic bastard thing. I stopped buying it ages ago. It is as bad as The Minger. Here's another trashy article.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/jul/14/manchester-city-carlos-tevez-emmanuel-adebayor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... l-adebayor</a>
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According to that article City can do nothing right. I laughed so hard that I cried!
 
As one person said earlier, David Conn is an investigative journalist and it's his job to tackle thorny issues. Having read that article I can't see it being anti-City in any noticeable way.

David Conn has quite correctly pointed out that no one really knows who owned Tevez. There was an international arrest warrant issued for Kia Joorabchian two years ago re his alleged involvement in money laundering and I doubt there are many on here who know who FATF are? FATF are a "inter-governmental body whose purpose is the development and promotion of national and international policies to combat money laundering and terrorist financing". Recently there is much concern amongst government bodies/ agencies etc that there could be a high level of money laundering etc going on in football...in fact, there was a white paper/ report issued about money laundering in football earlier this year.

So in short, Conn has highlighted the lingering doubts about the true ultimate ownership of Tevez, the Kia Joorabchian connection and the ongoing concerns of money laundering in football. All of which is true. I very much doubt the Guardian's lawyers would have let Conn's article be published if there were any issues.

In short, what is there to worry about...City have purchased the player, they own the full rights to him, everything has been signed off by the Premiership & FA etc etc.
 
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
As one person said earlier, David Conn is an investigative journalist and it's his job to tackle thorny issues. Having read that article I can't see it being anti-City in any noticeable way.

David Conn has quite correctly pointed out that no one really knows who owned Tevez. There was an international arrest warrant issued for Kia Joorabchian two years ago re his alleged involvement in money laundering and I doubt there are many on here who know who FATF are? FATF are a "inter-governmental body whose purpose is the development and promotion of national and international policies to combat money laundering and terrorist financing". Recently there is much concern amongst government bodies/ agencies etc that there could be a high level of money laundering etc going on in football...in fact, there was a white paper/ report issued about money laundering in football earlier this year.

So in short, Conn has highlighted the lingering doubts about the true ultimate ownership of Tevez, the Kia Joorabchian connection and the ongoing concerns of money laundering in football. All of which is true. I very much doubt the Guardian's lawyers would have let Conn's article be published if there were any issues.

In short, what is there to worry about...City have purchased the player, they own the full rights to him, everything has been signed off by the Premiership & FA etc etc.
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Well you have just spoiled a good witch hunt there with your ' voice of reason' lol
 
squirtyflower said:
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
As one person said earlier, David Conn is an investigative journalist and it's his job to tackle thorny issues. Having read that article I can't see it being anti-City in any noticeable way.

David Conn has quite correctly pointed out that no one really knows who owned Tevez. There was an international arrest warrant issued for Kia Joorabchian two years ago re his alleged involvement in money laundering and I doubt there are many on here who know who FATF are? FATF are a "inter-governmental body whose purpose is the development and promotion of national and international policies to combat money laundering and terrorist financing". Recently there is much concern amongst government bodies/ agencies etc that there could be a high level of money laundering etc going on in football...in fact, there was a white paper/ report issued about money laundering in football earlier this year.

So in short, Conn has highlighted the lingering doubts about the true ultimate ownership of Tevez, the Kia Joorabchian connection and the ongoing concerns of money laundering in football. All of which is true. I very much doubt the Guardian's lawyers would have let Conn's article be published if there were any issues.

In short, what is there to worry about...City have purchased the player, they own the full rights to him, everything has been signed off by the Premiership & FA etc etc.
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Well you have just spoiled a good witch hunt there with your ' voice of reason' lol
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It's an area I know quite a lot about!
 
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
squirtyflower said:
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
It's an area I know quite a lot about!
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Why is that?
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Ha ha - nothing sinister, I'm not a criminal but it's part of my job to know about these sort of things!
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I wasn't thinking criminal or anything bad, guessed it might have something to do with work, just interested that was all.

On a different note though, the Guardian do their level best to find fault with our owners and I wondered if it has anything to do with their political allegiance.
 
squirtyflower said:
On a different note though, the Guardian do their level best to find fault with our owners and I wondered if it has anything to do with their political allegiance.
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Yes I think that has something to do with it. I would much prefer it if we had a British owner who was pumping in this money but the cold hard reality is, there are none out there. City are really really lucky that we got a Randy Lerner type but with shedloads of cash. We could quite easily have ended up with a Hicks & Gillett or Glazer problem.
 
Uwe Rosler's Grandad said:
squirtyflower said:
On a different note though, the Guardian do their level best to find fault with our owners and I wondered if it has anything to do with their political allegiance.
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Yes I think that has something to do with it. I would much prefer it if we had a British owner who was pumping in this money but the cold hard reality is, there are none out there. City are really really lucky that we got a Randy Lerner type but with shedloads of cash. We could quite easily have ended up with a Hicks & Gillett or Glazer problem.
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My biggest fear would have been the debt loading yanks, I'm just amazed how many people on here don't see what is really happening in Trafford and Liverpool and still think that they are the same strength as before. It's as if they haven't seen what's happened to the banking sector.
 
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