The rise of UKIP

Markt85 said:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D08TixQ0LhY&feature=youtu.be[/video]


Oh dear, he really isn't a builder of relationships is he?

God help us if Farage and his lunatic fringe ever get near any real power, they'll drag us all back into the stoneage faster than the taliban ever could.
 
Markt85 said:
Published today

Farage giving to Juncker regarding there elction via a secret ballot , so called democracy within the EU

ah right. Is there an article anywhere I can have a read of?
 
roaminblue said:
Markt85 said:
Published today

Farage giving to Juncker regarding there elction via a secret ballot , so called democracy within the EU

ah right. Is there an article anywhere I can have a read of?


cant find the full speech, this was part of it -


"If this is European democracy in action, I suggest we have a rethink," he began, with Juncker sitting just feet away from him.

"The truth is your voters in your countries didn't realise what this process was. Mr Juncker's name did not appear on any single ballot paper.

"The whole thing has been the most extraordinary stitch-up.

"We're all going to be asked to vote and we've got one candidate to vote for," he said, to hollow laughter from his allies.

"It's like good old Soviet times. Surely democracy means you get rather more of a choice than one. But far worse than that, it's going to be a secret ballot.

"Hot on the heels of the election, our voters will now not know how we voted."
 
Markt85 said:
roaminblue said:
Markt85 said:
Published today

Farage giving to Juncker regarding there elction via a secret ballot , so called democracy within the EU

ah right. Is there an article anywhere I can have a read of?


cant find the full speech, this was part of it -


"If this is European democracy in action, I suggest we have a rethink," he began, with Juncker sitting just feet away from him.

"The truth is your voters in your countries didn't realise what this process was. Mr Juncker's name did not appear on any single ballot paper.

"The whole thing has been the most extraordinary stitch-up.

"We're all going to be asked to vote and we've got one candidate to vote for," he said, to hollow laughter from his allies.

"It's like good old Soviet times. Surely democracy means you get rather more of a choice than one. But far worse than that, it's going to be a secret ballot.

"Hot on the heels of the election, our voters will now not know how we voted."

Cheers Mark. So its about the Juncker election. I really don't know enough about the situation to comment, however if the above is accurate, this is the type of thing the EU needs to prevent before it can move in the direction that it wants to (and I think should)
 
A majority in the European Parliament has approved former Luxembourg PM Jean-Claude Juncker to be President of the European Commission.

He got 422 votes out of the 729 total cast in the secret ballot, despite strong opposition earlier from Britain.

He told reporters in Strasbourg he was prepared to discuss repatriating some powers from Brussels to member states.

A firm believer in EU integration, he will succeed incumbent Jose Manuel Barroso of Portugal in November.

In a speech to MEPs, he pledged the Commission would be a "political body", not just Europe's civil service.

He got sustained applause when he said the euro "protects Europe".


Mr Juncker was well over the 376 votes minimum that he needed. There were 250 votes against him, 47 abstentions and 10 spoilt ballots.

Mr Juncker, a veteran of Brussels deal-making, was lead candidate of the centre-right European People's Party (EPP), which won May's European elections. He played a key role in the eurozone bailouts.

The presidency is the most powerful job in Brussels. The Commission drafts EU laws, oversees national budgets, enforces EU treaties and negotiates international trade deals.

On Wednesday EU leaders are expected to nominate a new EU foreign policy chief, to replace Baroness Ashton.

Eurozone veteran

At his news conference, Mr Juncker reiterated previous comments that any repatriation of powers would be a matter for renegotiation with UK Prime Minister David Cameron and other heads of government of EU states.

But he said he would be prepared to make a "fair deal" with Britain.

As chair of the eurozone finance ministers, Mr Juncker steered the massive bailouts for Greece, Portugal and other struggling countries at the height of the euro crisis in 2010-2012.

He likened that role on Tuesday to "trying to keep a burning plane in the air while repairing it - you burn your fingers sometimes".

Elsewhere in his speech he said:

The eurozone should create a joint budget, separate from the EU budget, to help countries making difficult structural reforms
The EU needs a 300bn-euro (£238bn; $408bn) investment plan to boost growth and create jobs
"Maximum transparency" is needed in the EU's free trade negotiations with the US, to allay people's suspicions
The EU "should not Europeanise every tiny problem" but "deal with the big tasks"
The troika group - in charge of EU bailouts - must be made more democratic, with more parliamentary scrutiny
EU rules on free movement of workers will not be changed - but national authorities must tackle abuses
When he sought to argue that the euro represented monetary stability, UK Independence Party MEPs shouted "rubbish".

Last month, Mr Juncker won the backing of 26 out of 28 leaders of the EU.

Mr Cameron - supported by his Hungarian counterpart Viktor Orban - called the move "a serious mistake" because Mr Juncker, 59, was too much in favour of closer political union and might block EU reform. He pushed for - and lost - a vote on Mr Juncker, breaking with tradition.

In the past such appointments were made by the EU leaders - meeting in the European Council - by unanimity.

After the European Council vote Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel said there would be a review of how the Commission president was nominated - but only after the new Commission team was in place.

Mr Juncker's supporters value his record of consensus-building and commitment to EU integration.

Under new EU treaty rules, the leaders have to take account of the European election result when nominating a Commission chief.

In the coming months, the other 27 new members of the Commission - one from each country - will be appointed. The EU will also appoint a new foreign policy chief and new president of the European Council.

So, now I'm lost. What was it that Farage was upset about? That the ballot was in secret? Or that there were only options: voting for/against him or spoiling?
 

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