The RSF, The UAE and the killings in Sudan

How many premier league club fans have forum topics attacking their own owners?

Liverpool for all that standard charted are involved in? No.
Utd for their business partnership with Saudi Arabia - they're not even aware. Newcastle no.
Forest - celebrated
Etc

I'm not sure why we're going through this. It's as if the media only tell us that City do wrong things!
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
How many premier league club fans have forum topics attacking their own owners?

Liverpool for all that standard charted are involved in? No.
Utd for their business partnership with Saudi Arabia - they're not even aware. Newcastle no.
Forest - celebrated
Etc

I'm not sure why we're going through this. It's as if the media only tell us that City do wrong things!
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This isn't just any wrong, have you seen the videos and images coming out of Sudan? Women and children being hung from trees? Let's not make it sound like the UAE were caught on some kind of traffic violation, this is an act of evil. Atrocities are being committed in Sudan and there's a flow of Cash from the UAE to Sudan and resources from Sudan to the UAE. Let's not be selective here. If any other club owners had their hands in filth like this and everyone here would be calling them out.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
How many premier league club fans have forum topics attacking their own owners?

Liverpool for all that standard charted are involved in? No.
Utd for their business partnership with Saudi Arabia - they're not even aware. Newcastle no.
Forest - celebrated
Etc

I'm not sure why we're going through this. It's as if the media only tell us that City do wrong things!
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For the last 21 years.
 
che_don_john said:
I'm somewhat relieved to see this thread, because part of me was worried that this would be a topic swept under the rug by fellow Blues. And so that no one can accuse me of getting on my high horse, I can admit that I have been guilty of turning a blind eye to a lot of the unsavoury things our owners have been connected to (directly or indirectly). But with Sudan, I can't ignore it.

I work in the humanitarian sector, and some of my work has involved projects in Sudan, so there is likely a personal angle to this issue that hasn't been there in the aforementioned things I'd turned a blind eye to. I'm often in the unfortunate position of seeing or hearing about things that don't make the news or social media. And, yes, I've known about the UAE's involvement (and our owner's alleged connection/complicity) long before mainstream media and football fans started to point it out.

Reading through these pages, I think that people have a good sense of what's happening there, though I can also say that there are things I've seen that are probably worse than what most people have seen or are aware of, or can imagine. 'Trauma fatigue' is a real problem for people working in our sector; there's only so much your mind and heart can take before it starts to affect you viscerally.

I emigrated 6 years ago (Watford cup final was my last game) but my family still goes to games. I'm never going to hold that against them. It's not that they couldn't care about Sudan (if they even know about it); I think it's just that City means so much to them and they couldn't bear to lose it. And I totally get that. I imagine it's the same for a lot of City fans, on this forum and generally.

But this whole Sudan thing doesn't sit well with me and I don't know what to do about it. I can't boycott or protest because I'm thousands of miles away, and honestly, it wouldn't make any difference at all. I just kind of feel like there's this big hole in me now.
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I don’t think anybody should be boycotting or protesting City over this. Foremost, because often protests target the wrong people anyway. We are City fans, not Mansour fans. It’s not the players’, Pep’s, the management team, the general staff at the Etihad Stadium or Etihad Campus, or fellow supporters’ fault what situation Mansour has got himself into in his political affairs… but we should be talking about it and questioning our long-term association with him.

That doesn’t mean we demand he sells his shares, just having a look at what he’s into, what his long-term plans are around it… and then contemplate what ours are around him.

We are right to question him negatively as much as we are to praise him positively for his investment in City, Manchester Life and the UK in general. I’m not sure why there’s clamour to play any negatives down or deflect and bring up other clubs. He isn’t City and City isn’t him. He’s just a shareholder who makes money off his shares, who probably hasn’t invested any of his own investment fund money into City for a long time now since City are a self sustained club who bring in around the second or third most revenue of any world football team every year… we’d actually probably be alright without Mansour as long as all the sponsors stayed with us.
 
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WestGorton said:
Everybody arms dealer sells arms to any country or person who wants to buy them. Case closed.
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The fact that the UK are supplying arms to a nation that the UN have designated as committing genocide. genocide ffs!

I think some people are not ready to accept the truth of the world. If they cant even understand that they are literally paying for genocide to be committed.

But yeah lets hammer our owners for something that every nation in the world does... Funding bad actors in return for influence.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
The fact that the UK are supplying arms to a nation that the UN have designated as committing genocide. genocide ffs!

I think some people are not ready to accept the truth of the world. If they cant even understand that they are literally paying for genocide to be committed.

But yeah lets hammer our owners for something that every nation in the world does... Funding bad actors in return for influence.
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Err people have hammered the UK for doing this.

The simple truth is both the UAE and the UK should be and are being called out, the only difference is Sheilkh Mansour is the owner of City and David Lammy nor any cabinet member isn't.

It has absolutely fuck all to do with not knowing what other nations do or dont do.

Another pathetic attempt at deflecting away from the uncomfortable truth just because you are a City fan.

You're better than that.
 
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