The Russians Are Coming

They may not be able to have enough people, sure, but they are still getting people.

Until recently (retired now) I worked for 18 years in an office that was mostly RN, and the problem that was most common wasn't getting youngsters in, it was retention of more middle ranks, and this was more down to some of the people in senior roles, not appreciating what they have, and many in their late 20's can earn more money outside the service.

Another issue that seemed to crop up was the lack of interesting postings, youngsters used to join to get to "see the world", now they mostly get to see "land" (mostly in barracks in the UK), and that is a government problem, because the number of ships have dramatically reduced, and that is further disrupted by the number of maintenance issues they suffer from, so often stuck in dockyards.

So my experience isn't that youngsters don't join because of modern life, more that they don't stay because it's not as good a life as it used to be.

As for the army and air force, plenty still join (and are interested in joining - hence my comment about cadet forces earlier), but similar issues occur with retention, and in recent times particularly the sort of army postings were to wars that were seen as nothing to do with our country, where the youngsters were often cannon fodder in a foreign war.

One other thing, education, youngsters used to join the forces straight from school, but now they are often expected to have (or aim for at least) higher education, including university education, and that's simply not for everyone.
Yes My son had a few friends that joined the Marines from school, only 1 left in now the others left because of boredom, no postings just used to train new recruits in exercises.
 
Apologies, i was being a bit of a dick....i guess i was just trying to highlight my disagreement with the opinion that young people MUST sign up and enlist...but they wont because they are "delicate little snowflakes".......and those with that opinion are usually ex-servicemen and/or those who would have absolutely no intention of doing so themselves, and fall behind the convenient fact they are "too old now"

My dad, stepdad, paternal and maternal grandfathers were all in the Army and Navy...so there is some experience....and whilst they and probably you will disagree, i dont believe anyone should have to sign up to any sort of military service or action.

I didnt intend to be personal, so again apologies
The late Harry Patch declared that war is nothing but "legalised murder".
 
Ooh look, we’ve got them too.
We must be planning to invade Russia…

 
Ooh look, we’ve got them too.
We must be planning to invade Russia…


Have we parked a ship pretty much in Russian waters to map there communication lines and firing it at their planes?

Although these will be very different lasers. the one they used was probably a glorified laser pointer used to distract

The idea Russia would invade us is pretty nuts with MAD in effect. they are not gonna start to fire missiles and land on our beaches. They will use bots and manipulation to turn a population against itself and vote in Russian Shills which is 100% being attempted.
 
Have we parked a ship pretty much in Russian waters to map there communication lines and firing it at their planes?
To be fair, I don't think they've parked a ship in UK waters either, they are doing what they always have done, using international waters to "survey the sea bed", which they're perfectly entitled to do outside UK waters.

We've certainly sent our "research" vessels into international waters off the russian coast in the recent past, surveying the sea bed, and they'll have monitored us doing so in the same way.

As for the planes, whenever they are close by, we have aircraft (and ships) monitoring what they're up to, both have sophisticated electronic monitoring kit, so we'll know what they're up to.

All that is happening here is a new ramped up "cold war", the media tried to implicate that we might take action if they come too close, well we would, but I very much doubt that any shots will be exchanged, they'd just be warned away.

The idea Russia would invade us is pretty nuts with MAD in effect. they are not gonna start to fire missiles and land on our beaches. They will use bots and manipulation to turn a population against itself and vote in Russian Shills which is 100% being attempted.
Exactly, and they've been doing this all along, the cold war never really ended, it just lessened for a while.
 

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