James supported The Smiths at their final Hacienda gig in November 83 and The Palace Theatre March 85.Free trade Hall, sure James support. Palace and gmex
Tickets somewhere still
Certainly Johnny and Mike have said that.Been revisiting Strangeways, Here We Come a lot recently. Always preferred The Queen Is Dead personally but noticed that all Smiths’ members (I think?) felt that Strangeways was their masterpiece? Both absolutely brilliant albums in their own way.
Shouldn’t really include them in this, but where would you rank Hatful of Hollow, Louder Than Bombs, The World Won’t Listen and, erm, Rank if you had to give a top 8?Certainly Johnny and Mike have said that.
Always TQID for me 10/10 with the other 3 on 9.9/10 lol
Great question!Shouldn’t really include them in this, but where would you rank Hatful of Hollow, Louder Than Bombs, The World Won’t Listen and, erm, Rank if you had to give a top 8?
Good man. I really like Rank, but maybe it’s unfair to include it in this comparison. Not really like for like, although then again neither is much of the rest of the list!Great question!
Wouldn't include Louder The Bombs as it is a compilation of 2 compilations!
Rank as a live album, never been a lover of live albums. Bought Rank and Nocturne by The Banshees (as I was there) and no other... Played Rank maybe twice in total all the way through.
1. The Queen Is Dead
2 Hatfull of Hollow
3. The Smiths
4. Meat is Murder
5. Strangeways
6. World won't listen
7. Louder than bombs
8. Rank
Between 3, 4 and 5 there is a hair width between them. But that is my preference.
Hatful Of Hollow no 7????Good man. I really like Rank, but maybe it’s unfair to include it in this comparison. Not really like for like, although then again neither is much of the rest of the list!
For what it’s worth (purely in terms of what I listen to most rather than artistic merit):
1) The Queen Is Dead
2) Meat Is Murder
3) Strangeways, Here We Come
4) Louder Than Bombs
5) The Smiths
6) Hatful of Hollow
7) The World Won’t Listen
5 times. 5 magical times.
84 Cov Poly (jumped off the train at Cov after watching City away at Brighton)
85 Palace Theatre
86 GMEX, Salford Uni, Free Trade Hall
*glances over at framed tickets*
6, actually ;)Hatful Of Hollow no 7????
*Resigns as a mod...... * lol
Played it loud in the car last week and musically it is so far away from their first album and even the other two as well, and it would have been interesting to see what musical direction Marr would have taken them had another album been produced.Loving this conversation about the smiths albums. Strangeways still sounds great today.
I have no idea what that means lolHatful of Hollow is the Rosetta Stone to their music.
Can't put any of them in order though.
Yes, small venue, low stage and tons of gladiolli flying around!Bet the 84 one was good before they became more mainstream.
Yes, small venue, low stage and tons of gladiolli flying around!
Yes the gig was similar to that without the invasion!I watch the Derby Assembly Rooms gig on YouTube now and again with the mass stage invasion at the end!
Been revisiting Strangeways, Here We Come a lot recently. Always preferred The Queen Is Dead personally but noticed that all Smiths’ members (I think?) felt that Strangeways was their masterpiece? Both absolutely brilliant albums in their own way.
Wasn't half or all of viva hate the next smiths album?Played it loud in the car last week and musically it is so far away from their first album and even the other two as well, and it would have been interesting to see what musical direction Marr would have taken them had another album been produced.
I think (beyond Johnny being so tired and having to manage the band too) this is one of the cracks in the Moz / Marr relationship in that Johnny could see what was coming (musically) around the corner yet Morrissey wanted to keep the jingly jangle formula. Johnny wanted to go more electronic.... (Pun intended)