The Tevez incident

[Akira]

This will probably get really long, but I felt that I should share my thoughts here in the forum, what with all the Tevez talk recently. If you couldn't be bothered, then skip to the last paragraph then.

Firstly, I love Tevez as a player but as a personality, he comes across as a disrespectful person. There are too many incidents that made me grow a distaste towards his character, off the top of my head:

1) Obviously, transfer request, after what Mancini has done for him.
2) FA Cup, remember fans putting scarves on him, only for him to throw it on some random bloke?

And of course, now that he's "back", I see many people throw revolting comments at the thought of him in a City shirt. However, only a handful tried to see the perspective in Tevez's defense.

This is what I think is probably his personal recount:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2rXtJL6o0c[/youtube]

In short, here's his story:

1) He was warming up.
2) Dzeko was brought off.
3) Dzeko rages at Mancini.
4) Mancini rages at Dzeko.
5) Tevez stopped warming up.
6) Mancini tells him to go back and warm up, while raging.
7) Tevez finds it disrespectful, refuses to warm up.

Simple story of pride and emotional exchanges, really.

I back Mancini, I love Mancini, I worship Mancini. However, I believe Tevez.

Mancini is a man who can get very emotional at times.
Tevez is a man who is very prideful.

Take example, Mancini rages at Balotelli (vs L.A. Galaxy) for 'disrespecting' the opponent. But from the body language, Balotelli obviously backheeled the ball at leisure claiming he heard the offside whistle.

So, Mancini is a man who can be quick to judge, and things did not help when he shares a fragile relationship with Tevez. It certainly didn't help the situation when he is blowing his top at Dzeko and had to converse with Tevez.

To make my point, I believe Tevez should be given a chance to redeem himself with us. In a way, he's a man (probably) misunderstood, or not. But if he's here to help, then I would gladly have him in the team. I understand the pain of re-accepting Tevez. He was my hero too. And the pain hurts more when your hero walks out on you in a crucial situation. But like I said, I would give him a second chance.

I understand if I may not made a point and I'm long-winded. My apologies is so.

Cheers.

 

[MCFC-alan88]

So because of Pride he fucks off to Argentina for 3 months? I don't give a crap about Pride, he's paid a fortune to do a job that people would kill for. He's a professional so he should act like it.

 

[SuperKevinHorlock91]

From what i have heard and read about his 45 minutes for the ressies he looked like he couldnt be arsed playing.

Lets see if he comes back for the first team and does well.

Even if he wins us the league he will still be a ****.

 

[redmizzle]

When you're asked to warm up, you fucking warm up!

 

[MCFCTrick]

He still refused to warm up.....he disobeyed his boss. End of.

Then fecked off for three months sulking.....and has only returned cos nobody bought him. The utter twunt should not get further than the reserves til we can unload him in the summer.

Offer him to Corinthians for £15m. We got £10 back from him in wages. That equals £25m. Done.

 

[ali benarbia's studs]

So because of Pride he fucks off to Argentina for 3 months? I don't give a crap about Pride, he's paid a fortune to do a job that people would kill for. He's a professional so he should act like it.

^^^^^^summed up perfectly..... so there!!!!

 

[Balti]

He still refused to warm up.....he disobeyed his boss. End of.

Then fecked off for three months sulking.....and has only returned cos nobody bought him. The utter twunt should not get further than the reserves til we can unload him in the summer.

Offer him to Corinthians for £15m. We got £10 back from him in wages. That equals £25m. Done.

+1

Except I'd still hold out for £25 million or a decent swap deal at that sort of valuation.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

This is what I think is probably his personal recount:
In short, here's his story:

1) He was warming up.
2) Dzeko was brought off.
3) Dzeko rages at Mancini.
4) Mancini rages at Dzeko.
5) Tevez stopped warming up.
6) Mancini tells him to go back and warm up, while raging.
7) Tevez finds it disrespectful, refuses to warm up.

....
8) all hell breaks out & the world's media blow it all out of proportion
10) he's then told he'll never play for the club again unless he apologises for something he believes he hasn't even done

THIS is the stage where, with hindsight or a degree of foresight, it all should've been sorted but behind the scenes by the club, but it wasn't and two strong characters locked horns.

(11) he says, "you know what? F*ck this sh*t, I don't even want to play in Manchester anyway
12) he disobeys orders left, right and centre and goes home to play with his kids and brush up on his golf expecting that the world and his dog will want him to play for them when the January window comes
13) January comes and goes
14) February arrives and he starts sh*tting in his panties

In short Mancini probably over-reacted and it got Tevez's heckles up and he reacted very badly, so in theory, both of them are kinda in the wrong regarding the issue. But the only thing I see above all others is that one of these men is in a management position and the other is simply an employee. Employee's in all walk of life believe that their managers know f*ck all and have got things wrong BUT they normally just have to take it on the chin and woman about them during their lunch-break. Tevez didn't. He didn't take it on the chin. Tevez went too far, way past the point of no return, believing he was bigger and better than everyone; the other players, the manager, the club, EVERYONE .... and fortunately he found out that he wasn't.

I say let him get fit, let him show that he can train without causing any more issues, let him sit on the bench, let him run up and down the line to warm up at home a couple of times and get the AWAY fans booing him (I think especially during the derby this would create an even better atmosphere than there's already going to be which we should be able to take advantage of and exploit), let THIS galvanise the team. However I would never let him play for us again barring some sort of huge catastrophy, I'd then get shut during the summer and never speak of THIS season's Tevez ever again.

 

[Stoned Rose]

This will probably get really long, but I felt that I should share my thoughts here in the forum, what with all the Tevez talk recently. If you couldn't be bothered, then skip to the last paragraph then.

Firstly, I love Tevez as a player but as a personality, he comes across as a disrespectful person. There are too many incidents that made me grow a distaste towards his character, off the top of my head:

1) Obviously, transfer request, after what Mancini has done for him.
2) FA Cup, remember fans putting scarves on him, only for him to throw it on some random bloke?

And of course, now that he's "back", I see many people throw revolting comments at the thought of him in a City shirt. However, only a handful tried to see the perspective in Tevez's defense.

This is what I think is probably his personal recount:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2rXtJL6o0c[/youtube]

In short, here's his story:

1) He was warming up.
2) Dzeko was brought off.
3) Dzeko rages at Mancini.
4) Mancini rages at Dzeko.
5) Tevez stopped warming up.
6) Mancini tells him to go back and warm up, while raging.
7) Tevez finds it disrespectful, refuses to warm up.

Simple story of pride and emotional exchanges, really.

I back Mancini, I love Mancini, I worship Mancini. However, I believe Tevez.

Mancini is a man who can get very emotional at times.
Tevez is a man who is very prideful.

Take example, Mancini rages at Balotelli (vs L.A. Galaxy) for 'disrespecting' the opponent. But from the body language, Balotelli obviously backheeled the ball at leisure claiming he heard the offside whistle.

So, Mancini is a man who can be quick to judge, and things did not help when he shares a fragile relationship with Tevez. It certainly didn't help the situation when he is blowing his top at Dzeko and had to converse with Tevez.

To make my point, I believe Tevez should be given a chance to redeem himself with us. In a way, he's a man (probably) misunderstood, or not. But if he's here to help, then I would gladly have him in the team. I understand the pain of re-accepting Tevez. He was my hero too. And the pain hurts more when your hero walks out on you in a crucial situation. But like I said, I would give him a second chance.

I understand if I may not made a point and I'm long-winded. My apologies is so.

Cheers.

Excellent post mate. Intelligent and not based on emotion or morality. You'll go far :)

 

[ErlingHaaland]

This is what I think is probably his personal recount:
In short, here's his story:

1) He was warming up.
2) Dzeko was brought off.
3) Dzeko rages at Mancini.
4) Mancini rages at Dzeko.
5) Tevez stopped warming up.
6) Mancini tells him to go back and warm up, while raging.
7) Tevez finds it disrespectful, refuses to warm up.

....
8) all hell breaks out & the world's media blow it all out of proportion
10) he's then told he'll never play for the club again unless he apologises for something he believes he hasn't even done

THIS is the stage where, with hindsight or a degree of foresight, it all should've been sorted but behind the scenes by the club, but it wasn't and two strong characters locked horns.

(11) he says, "you know what? F*ck this sh*t, I don't even want to play in Manchester anyway
12) he disobeys orders left, right and centre and goes home to play with his kids and brush up on his golf expecting that the world and his dog will want him to play for them when the January window comes
13) January comes and goes
14) February arrives and he starts sh*tting in his panties

In short Mancini probably over-reacted and it got Tevez's heckles up and he reacted very badly, so in theory, both of them are kinda in the wrong regarding the issue. But the only thing I see above all others is that one of these men is in a management position and the other is simply an employee. Employee's in all walk of life believe that their managers know f*ck all and have got things wrong BUT they normally just have to take it on the chin and woman about them during their lunch-break. Tevez didn't. He didn't take it on the chin. Tevez went too far, way past the point of no return, believing he was bigger and better than everyone; the other players, the manager, the club, EVERYONE .... and fortunately he found out that he wasn't.

I say let him get fit, let him show that he can train without causing any more issues, let him sit on the bench, let him run up and down the line to warm up at home a couple of times and get the AWAY fans booing him (I think especially during the derby this would create an even better atmosphere than there's already going to be which we should be able to take advantage of and exploit), let THIS galvanise the team. However I would never let him play for us again barring some sort of huge catastrophy, I'd then get shut during the summer and never speak of THIS season's Tevez ever again.

What was 9 ??