The Titanic

What's confusing me is that James Cameron has apparently been down there 33 times. Some of those trips were over 25 years ago and the technology has presumably advanced considerably in that time. So how have these men ended up in something that looks and sounds so rudimentary? I'm guessing cost was a key factor, but what a huge risk to take. It's an absolutely horrific way to go if they're still alive.
 
What's confusing me is that James Cameron has apparently been down there 33 times. Some of those trips were over 25 years ago and the technology has presumably advanced considerably in that time. So how have these men ended up in something that looks and sounds so rudimentary? I'm guessing cost was a key factor, but what a huge risk to take. It's an absolutely horrific way to go if they're still alive.
Because they’ve got more money than sense.
 
I can fully understand why someone would want to undertake this experience but it seems thirst for adventure skewed any rational thinking about personal safety.

That doesn't detract that they are humans now facing likely death and anyone publicly stating they have no sympathy for their predicament is really sad and not a good look imo
 
It's very sad, but what the hell anyone wants to pay 200k for a trip in a metal can with one window operated by an xbox controller for is beyond me.

5 People looking into the abyss or taking it in turn to look through a tiny porthole at what? A rusting wreck at the end of the day.

My thoughts are with the people putting themselves on the line searching for them.

People do lots of weird things if they can. If they've got the time, the will. And the readies.
No animal on earth would bother to do these things.
Why people would go up the so-called eight-thousanders (the handful of mountains on the planet over 8000 metres) where, basically, the human body is not supposed to be and starts shutting down and moving towards death, is beyond me. You're risking your life at many points, especially on the way down (when your concentration inevitably lessens). I suppose the rush when you reach the summit (if you reach it?) must also be beyond anything I can imagine.
But being in a tin can at the bottom of an enormous pitch black ocean to see a wreck? Personally, I can think of few things more lugubrious. Hey, I love the countryside and walking, but I wouldn't go potholing even for good money. And potholing with a wet suit on and an oxygen tank on my back, making your way through narrow, water-filled tunnels? There is no fucking way…
 
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What's confusing me is that James Cameron has apparently been down there 33 times. Some of those trips were over 25 years ago and the technology has presumably advanced considerably in that time. So how have these men ended up in something that looks and sounds so rudimentary? I'm guessing cost was a key factor, but what a huge risk to take. It's an absolutely horrific way to go if they're still alive.

Do you remember those temporary shops that used to keep on popping up in Manchester years ago? A couple of blokes on a very loud microphone offering you a bargain if you paid for a box you didn't know what was inside. They told you it was worth a lot more than the money you would hand over and you'd be a fool not to buy one. Then a plant in the audience would "buy" one, open it and it was full of expensive items. The crowd will all then fight to buy one too, the blokes would sell out and the next day the shop and the blokes had disappeared when you went to give the crap back and reclaim your money. This is the same type of process only the thing you potentially risk losing is your life if you fall for the silver tongued patter of a glib salesman without doing your research.
 
Do you remember those temporary shops that used to keep on popping up in Manchester years ago? A couple of blokes on a very loud microphone offering you a bargain if you paid for a box you didn't know what was inside. They told you it was worth a lot more than the money you would hand over and you'd be a fool not to buy one. Then a plant in the audience would "buy" one, open it and it was full of expensive items. The crowd will all then fight to buy one too, the blokes would sell out and the next day the shop and the blokes had disappeared when you went to give the crap back and reclaim your money. This is the same type of process only the thing you potentially risk losing is your life if you fall for the silver tongued patter of a glib salesman without doing your research.

Vague memories of one of these pop up shops on Market Street years ago. My dad "won" a bin bag of pans and a fluorescent pink radio. Almost directly opposite where HMV was
 
What's confusing me is that James Cameron has apparently been down there 33 times. Some of those trips were over 25 years ago and the technology has presumably advanced considerably in that time. So how have these men ended up in something that looks and sounds so rudimentary? I'm guessing cost was a key factor, but what a huge risk to take. It's an absolutely horrific way to go if they're still alive.

There are plenty of private submarine companies and they’re very strictly regulated not only externally but also within the industry itself.

These guys were hobbyists cutting corners at every turn to keep costs down - indeed an old letter from the industry body to them was posted to Reddit yesterday where other operators begged them to respect industry safety standards and not ruin it for the rest of them…. Indeed safety regulations will increase exponentially from now on.

The 2x most damning points are that they only used a Perspex window rated for 1300 metres as the one for the 4000 metres they needed was too expensive, and also that they removed the tracking beacon as it was interfering with the comms setup so rather then work that out they ditched the tracker…

Add in that all it would take it a microscopic crack in the hull for the sub to be fatally compromised, do we really think they were x-raying before entering the water?…
 
Do you remember those temporary shops that used to keep on popping up in Manchester years ago? A couple of blokes on a very loud microphone offering you a bargain if you paid for a box you didn't know what was inside. They told you it was worth a lot more than the money you would hand over and you'd be a fool not to buy one. Then a plant in the audience would "buy" one, open it and it was full of expensive items. The crowd will all then fight to buy one too, the blokes would sell out and the next day the shop and the blokes had disappeared when you went to give the crap back and reclaim your money. This is the same type of process only the thing you potentially risk losing is your life if you fall for the silver tongued patter of a glib salesman without doing your research.

That's a slightly cleverer version of Find the Lady. Didn't know about that. When I was much younger, and very foolish, I fell for the Find the Lady trap. Put a fiver down, when that seemed and was a lot of money, and it really burnt me. Just the once. That was enough.
 
People do lots of weird things if they can. If they've got the time, the will. And the readies.
No animal on earth would bother to do these things.
Why people would go up the so-called eight-thousanders (the handful of mountains on the planet over 8000 metres) where, basically, the human body is not supposed to be and starts shutting down and moving towards death, is beyond me. You're risking your life at many points, especially on the way down (when your concentration inevitably lessens). I suppose the rush when you reach the summit (if you reach it?) must also be beyond anything I can imagine.
But being in a tin can at the bottom of an enormous pitch black ocean to see a wreck? Personally, I can think of few things more lugubrious. Hey, I love the countryside and walking, but I wouldn't go potholing even for good money. And potholing with a wet suit on and an oxygen tank on my back, making your way through narrow, water-filled tunnels? There is no fucking way…

Spot on. It's quite ironic that the wreck they were going to see was also a tragedy made a hell of a lot worse born out of man's arrogance and the passengers belief in the lie that the ship was unsinkable.
 

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