The Title Race - 2023/24

How many points will be needed to win the league?

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edinburgh123 said:
Go on. You have lost me
we should have 9 points and have 9? Newcastle should have had 7, but have 3?
we were expected to get 3 against Newcastle, but they were expected to get 1 in the same game?
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You have to win all the games at home (19 * 3 = 57).

You have to win away against the teams from position 12 to 20 ( 9 * 3 = 27)

You have to take a point against the teams from position 1 to 11 ( 10 points).

57+27+10 = 94 points

Theoretically any team can reach 94 points. This way you understand if one team performs better than another.

City have a home game and 2 away against bottom team. Expected 9 , get 9. Performs normal.

Newcastle , two home games , one away against top 11. Expected 7 get 3. Underperform.

Liverpool, two away against top 11 and 1 home. Expected 5 get 7. Overperfom.
 
jimharri said:
I don't think any rational City fan would argue with that. Outside the penalty area, Henry contributed more to Arsenal than Sergio did for us. Aguero came alive in the box.
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Two of the greatest players to play in the Premier League.

Sergio did score a lot more goals though - one every 107 minutes for City, whereas Henry was only one every 133 minutes at Arsenal. Even adding assists, puts Sergio on an assist or goal every 84 minutes, to Henry's 93 minutes.

Henry was a great all round player, and a wonderful goal scorer. Aguero might not quite have matched some parts of Henry's game, he was almost certainly the best striker that has ever played in England.
 
Gio Sugar said:
You have to win all the games at home (19 * 3 = 57).

You have to win away against the teams from position 12 to 20 ( 9 * 3 = 27)

You have to take a point against the teams from position 1 to 11 ( 10 points).

57+27+10 = 94 points

Theoretically any team can reach 94 points. This way you understand if one team performs better than another.

City have a home game and 2 away against bottom team. Expected 9 , get 9. Performs normal.

Newcastle , two home games , one away against top 11. Expected 7 get 3. Underperform.

Liverpool, two away against top 11 and 1 home. Expected 5 get 7. Overperfom.
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What a load of statistical crap......try getting a life.
 
Gio Sugar said:
You have to win all the games at home (19 * 3 = 57).

You have to win away against the teams from position 12 to 20 ( 9 * 3 = 27)

You have to take a point against the teams from position 1 to 11 ( 10 points).

57+27+10 = 94 points

Theoretically any team can reach 94 points. This way you understand if one team performs better than another.

City have a home game and 2 away against bottom team. Expected 9 , get 9. Performs normal.

Newcastle , two home games , one away against top 11. Expected 7 get 3. Underperform.

Liverpool, two away against top 11 and 1 home. Expected 5 get 7. Overperfom.
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But Chelsea were 12th last season ;)
 
As I said a few days ago...

Arsenal and Liverpool are the ONLY teams we have to worry about.

Newcastle ain't ready for the big time yet.

1-0 up and have an extra man on the field and still get turned over by the scousers...

Small time mentality. They are absolutely nowhere near ready for any title challenge. They will struggle getting in the top 4 tbh.
 
Gio Sugar said:
Yep , you could choose your best 11 teams.
The model works the same way.

For me Chelsea is a top 11 team.
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I also think it's nonsense, and I love statistics :)

ps. I do see what the aim is. The 538 site predictions (which they no longer do) were great because they took into account who you still had to play, and with maybe a third of last season to go, it was clear that Arsenal had a much tougher run in. Obviously compared to their big computer and complex models, this is just a bit of fun, so 'nonsense' in the fun sense!
 
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ElMago_DSilva said:
As I said a few days ago...

Arsenal and Liverpool are the ONLY teams we have to worry about.

Newcastle ain't ready for the big time yet.

1-0 up and have an extra man on the field and still get turned over by the scousers...

Small time mentality. They are absolutely nowhere near ready for any title challenge. They will struggle getting in the top 4 tbh.
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I can’t take Newcastle seriously till they stop having Almiron as a starter
 
Gio Sugar said:
You have to win all the games at home (19 * 3 = 57).

You have to win away against the teams from position 12 to 20 ( 9 * 3 = 27)

You have to take a point against the teams from position 1 to 11 ( 10 points).

57+27+10 = 94 points

Theoretically any team can reach 94 points. This way you understand if one team performs better than another.

City have a home game and 2 away against bottom team. Expected 9 , get 9. Performs normal.

Newcastle , two home games , one away against top 11. Expected 7 get 3. Underperform.

Liverpool, two away against top 11 and 1 home. Expected 5 get 7. Overperfom.
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I like it, takes into accout the quality of the teams you have played. Do you keep track all season?
 
bluenova said:
ps. I do see what the aim is. The 538 site predictions (which they no longer do) were great because they took into account who you still had to play, and with maybe a third of last season to go, it was clear that Arsenal had a much tougher run in. Obviously compared to their big computer and complex models, this is just a bit of fun, so 'nonsense' in the fun sense!
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Yep that 's it. The 538 it's way more comlex, I was a fan too.

I have this model since 2014 , it's working as we all expected to work.
 
bluenova said:
Two of the greatest players to play in the Premier League.

Sergio did score a lot more goals though - one every 107 minutes for City, whereas Henry was only one every 133 minutes at Arsenal. Even adding assists, puts Sergio on an assist or goal every 84 minutes, to Henry's 93 minutes.

Henry was a great all round player, and a wonderful goal scorer. Aguero might not quite have matched some parts of Henry's game, he was almost certainly the best striker that has ever played in England.
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Fucking A.
 
malg said:
3 games gone and some people think it's done....... Let's see how it all looks in early January.
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It’s far too early to make any realistic predictions, however some of the rivals don’t seem to have improved much on last season but teams have to get into their stride, we’ve just got to keep doing our thing and keep winning
 
Ducado said:
It’s far too early to make any realistic predictions, however some of the rivals don’t seem to have improved much on last season but teams have to get into their stride, we’ve just got to keep doing our thing and keep winning
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With Fulham, West Ham, Forest and Wolves next up, we have to fill our boots before it gets harder. The West Ham game will be tricky but I’d fancy us to win fairly easily in the others. If we can be 19/21 then that would be a great start and set us up nicely. 21/21 even better!
 
I think Opta have a table predictor, can't confirm whether it's better than 538, probably not, we were 90.2% to win the league before the season, we're now at 93.3%.
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