The transfer strategy

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[Neville Kneville]

The thing that I find really worrying is that people actually believe that there are a pool of players scattered around different clubs who are equally suitable for a particular role in our squad on all levels, and that all we have to do is pick the one that will piss our rivals off the most. Unbelieveable!

I think you'll find that the No of people suggesting that is roughly '0' & I think you know that but if it's the only way to get your argument across then fair enough.

Unless you genuinely believe there are only 11 players in the world suitable for City; one for each spot! Now THAT would be unbelievable!

 

[mammutly]

The thing that I find really worrying is that people actually believe that there are a pool of players scattered around different clubs who are equally suitable for a particular role in our squad on all levels, and that all we have to do is pick the one that will piss our rivals off the most. Unbelieveable!

I think you'll find that the No of people suggesting that is roughly '0' & I think you know that but if it's the only way to get your argument across then fair enough.

Unless you genuinely believe there are only 11 players in the world suitable for City; one for each spot! Now THAT would be unbelievable!

Sorry. I thought that's what you were suggesting.

Or are you agreeing with me that the club always choose the best player they can get for the job, no matter where he comes from?

 

[bizzbo]

The thing that I find really worrying is that people actually believe that there are a pool of players scattered around different clubs who are equally suitable for a particular role in our squad on all levels, and that all we have to do is pick the one that will piss our rivals off the most. Unbelieveable!

I think you'll find that the No of people suggesting that is roughly '0' & I think you know that but if it's the only way to get your argument across then fair enough.

Unless you genuinely believe there are only 11 players in the world suitable for City; one for each spot! Now THAT would be unbelievable!

Sorry. I thought that's what you were suggesting.

Or are you agreeing with me that the club always choose the best player they can get for the job, no matter where he comes from?

you've left yourself wide open here. the fact that the merits of the target are the primary consideration does not affect the implementation of a strategy governing the acquisition of the targeted players (for one thing, you have excluded the possibility that there may well be more than one player of equal merit in the targeted position). strategy is the art of using one's resources to maximum effect in pursuit of a goal. in this case, the order in which targets are pursued, the timing and pitch of each bid, the management of any publicity regarding the pursuit of each target, could be manipulated in line with a strategy to confound your opponents plans, destabilize and weaken their resolve and unity, and to ensure maximum chance of a bid being accepted and of the player agreeing to sign.

any attempt to argue against this being an obvious possibility will be taken as evidence that confirms my suspicion that you are being a mard-arse on this issue and beyond caring about the reasonableness of the arguments.

 

[Neville Kneville]

The thing that I find really worrying is that people actually believe that there are a pool of players scattered around different clubs who are equally suitable for a particular role in our squad on all levels, and that all we have to do is pick the one that will piss our rivals off the most. Unbelieveable!

I think you'll find that the No of people suggesting that is roughly '0' & I think you know that but if it's the only way to get your argument across then fair enough.

Unless you genuinely believe there are only 11 players in the world suitable for City; one for each spot! Now THAT would be unbelievable!

Sorry. I thought that's what you were suggesting.

Or are you agreeing with me that the club always choose the best player they can get for the job, no matter where he comes from?

I'm suggesting that they choose a selection of possible players for each position & quite often those will be the same players owned by or coveted by the top clubs. If there's a choice between signing a player of roughly the same ability but one of them will weaken a rival, they'll choose the one that weakens the rival. If they don't they're far too nice to be in charge of a modern football club.

Do you honestly think Jon Obi Mikel was so unique that he was the only player Chelsea could get in that position; they had to go through all that shit ? That it was a coincedence that Peter Kenyon moved there & they immediately moved for all Utd's top transfer targets, almost kidnapping Robben from OT? Look into Abramovic's strategy in Russia, he was known for it. It happens;we're doing it. Whether we'd admit it is another story.

 

[HelloCity]

You worry me, mammutly.

 

[mammutly]

The thing that I find really worrying is that people actually believe that there are a pool of players scattered around different clubs who are equally suitable for a particular role in our squad on all levels, and that all we have to do is pick the one that will piss our rivals off the most. Unbelieveable!

I think you'll find that the No of people suggesting that is roughly '0' & I think you know that but if it's the only way to get your argument across then fair enough.

Unless you genuinely believe there are only 11 players in the world suitable for City; one for each spot! Now THAT would be unbelievable!

Sorry. I thought that's what you were suggesting.

Or are you agreeing with me that the club always choose the best player they can get for the job, no matter where he comes from?

I'm suggesting that they choose a selection of possible players for each position & quite often those will be the same players owned by or coveted by the top clubs. If there's a choice between signing a player of roughly the same ability but one of them will weaken a rival, they'll choose the one that weakens the rival. If they don't they're far too nice to be in charge of a modern football club.

Do you honestly think Jon Obi Mikel was so unique that he was the only player Chelsea could get in that position; they had to go through all that shit ? That it was a coincedence that Peter Kenyon moved there & they immediately moved for all Utd's top transfer targets, almost kidnapping Robben from OT? Look into Abramovic's strategy in Russia, he was known for it. It happens;we're doing it. Whether we'd admit it is another story.

I mostly agree with your first paragraph. But I would doubt that at the highest level there are often two or more players of 'roughly the same ability'

The rest of your post is unfounded speculation.

To return to the original question of 'strategy'. This club does not select targets on the basis of whether they might be coveted by other clubs. There is just no evidence whatsoever to suggest any different. Abramovich having been accused of using such methods back in Russia in the 1990's is just irrelevant.

 

[mammutly]

You worry me, mammutly.

As long as I don't bore you


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[bizzbo]

as he's gone to bed, i will continue the argument in his absence. M, you have a couple of points. one, it would be foolish to choose an obviously less suitable target on the basis that it would upset an opponent, and two, that people are underestimating the possibilty that it is nothing more than coincidence that the best targets are playing for our direct rivals (even if you seem to be guilty of underestimating the possibility that it is more than coincidence).

 

[mammutly]

as he's gone to bed, i will continue the argument in his absence. M, you have a couple of points. one, it would be foolish to choose an obviously less suitable target on the basis that it would upset an opponent, and two, that people are underestimating the possibilty that it is nothing more than coincidence that the best targets are playing for our direct rivals (even if you seem to be guilty of underestimating the possibility that it is more than coincidence).

And there was I thinking you were a nutter


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