They're not going to sack him...

[ShaunMCFC]

I don't care anymore, if we have ambition and want to go places, Hughes will be gone in the summer. If we're happy with 9th 10th or 11th then we'll stick with Hughes and let him waste a shit load of more money.

 

[julio jordio]

With Hughes we possibly could become a stable club challenging for 4th place

Maybe I'm unambitious but I'd take that for now. I just want a trophy, any old fucking trophy to end the wait. We've got to start somewhere.

 

[maineroad]

To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.
Winston Churchill

settled get churchill in

 

[julio jordio]

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You really are a simple fence-sitter aren't you mate?

Floats like the wind, knee jerk after every defeat wanting him out, changing your mind back again when they next win a game.

Maybe having a principled view isn't for you, but I like to think I evaluate things a bit more than that, and that my opinions are a bit more considered than yours.

Get beat by WBA will at least give you the chance to change your minds again anyway...

My view is that I want what is best for my club, I want some sort of success and I don't care how we get it as long as it's sooner rather than later, I'm assuming you're of the same opinion? Hypothetically, you're the owner: you sack hughes. I'm the owner: I keep Hughes. Who'll get success first?

 

[bluemooninho]

The manager demands that performance last night from the players every week, whose fault is it that we don't get it? Serious question.

The manager. Serious answer.

So you say no responsibility for the players then ?

It's the manager's job to ensure the players are doing the business on the pitch.

No, it's the managers job to give the players the right training, experience and tools to do the business on the pitch. Once they are on that pitch it is up to them to use those tools and training. Certain players seem to be thriving under Hughes (Ireland, SWP, Onouha) and they say that his training style, team talks, etc. are very good.

Yes, he has made some silly mistakes tactically, but he is still getting to grips with a new bunch of players.

I honestly think he deserves at least half of next season to start to show improvements. At the end of the day, he was only really given one day of the summer transfer window and a January transfer window. That is no time to build a team and distribute the dead wood out to other teams. After this season, Hughes' career goes one of two ways. He either becomes another average British manager or he becomes a top manager. Personally, I hope it is the latter, because only we can benefit from that.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

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I too get mighty pissed off when my loyalty as a Blue is questioned simply for having the outrageous nerve to consider the suitability of our manager.
I didn't want Hughes from day one,but was prepared to give him a blank canvas and judge him accordingly.
By any real criteria you wish to use,he has been an abject failure.
£100 spent,(more than any other manager),tactical errors,bizarre substitutions,rumours of "player power" and dressing-room rifts,embarrassing cup exits and we will probably finish lower than last year in the league.
In what way,exactly,is he halfway to getting it right?
Will a top 10 finish next season be classed as a "success" if we spend another £100 million?
And on and on like this in the vain hope that,maybe,in 6 more futile seasons of "consolidation" we may finally be hanging on the coat-tails of the "big four"?
I never have booed a manager or a player at Coms or Maine Road,(and God knows we've had many who deserved it),and I ain't starting now,but criticizing the man who is staggeringly well-paid for running the team I love does not make me less of a Blue than some nodding-dog apologist who pretends all is well when the Emperor is stark-bollock naked.

 

[reni800]

With Hughes we possibly could become a stable club challenging for 4th place (possibly) but can anyone on here really see him getting us challenging for the top?

I don't think we'll even get to 4th with Hughes

I don't expect instant success but how long are we prepared to wait ? We could have Hughes for 10 years and still get nothing I reckon.

I'm getting old !!! I don't want to die with City at 13th in the PL and with Hughes as our manager and Dunney as our captain :-)

I don't think the pro Hughes lobby are asking you to wait 10 years. Mostly, I have seen people saying 'let's see where we are this time next year'.

It's clear to a lot of people that this squad is flawed and most of the players aren't good enough (mentally and/or technically) for where we want to be. I personally think hughes knows this too and we will see an AWFUL lot of the deadwood/not good enough cleared out this summer. If Hughes were to go and a new manager come in, I can see a lot of these players given yet another clean slate, just like last summer. The thought of that fills me with more dread and depression than the idea that FOR FUCKING ONCE in City's modern history, we give a manager enough time to put his own stamp on the squad and team and (God forbid) he comes up short.

I don't think I have the energy to start afresh with yet another new manager this summer, no matter who it is. I would suggest the chances of Dunne (who, to me symbolises the old, inadequate City) being here next season are far higher if we were to get rid of Hughes than if we were to keep him.

 

[Soulboy]

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You really are a simple fence-sitter aren't you mate?

Floats like the wind, knee jerk after every defeat wanting him out, changing your mind back again when they next win a game.

Maybe having a principled view isn't for you, but I like to think I evaluate things a bit more than that, and that my opinions are a bit more considered than yours.

Get beat by WBA will at least give you the chance to change your minds again anyway...

My view is that I want what is best for my club, I want some sort of success and I don't care how we get it as long as it's sooner rather than later, I'm assuming you're of the same opinion? Hypothetically, you're the owner: you sack hughes. I'm the owner: I keep Hughes. Who'll get success first?

All I'm saying is... if you have an opinion... stick with it for a while, try to think it through, to defend it.

Not to change your mind after every result!

If you want Hughes In, then don't change your mind sfter every defeat. Or if you want him out, don't change your mind after every win!

It's like being married, you have to stick it out even though it's crap at times!

 

[BobKowalski]

Could you really go threw another season like this one?

And im sick of people comparing him to Fergiscum saying how long it took him to win something.
Football has moved on. How long did it take Mourinho to win out

i nt and never will compair him to him ill just compair him to moyes at everton enough said, stability with the same manager look at them and they were worse than us before he took over.

Or don't compare him to anyone. Not Moyes. Not Mourinho. Hughes will and should be judged on the job he is doing and whether he can bring the level of success that ADUG want. There is no need to make it complicated and comparing to other managers with different talents and under different circumstances is largely pointless. For every pro Hughes comparison ie Moyes you make an anti Hughes comparison ie Jol for sake of argument and because its topical.

Oh and stability is a factor not the Holy Grail to success. Admittedly it's the only argument for Hughes left so I can understand people clinging to it.

sorry but every time you get a new manager he wants his team and his tactics so the players get used to playing one way then have to play another under a new manager so i think stability is the biggest factor in success.

No it isn't. Leadership skills. Motivational skills. Coaching skills. All these factors have to be in place before stability can be a key factor. Boro under Southgate have stability. Hows that working out for them?

Conversely Newcastle under Robson did reasonably well because he had the skills necessary to steady the club and give them some semblence of success via league positions. At this point stability and continuing with Robson would have been the answer. However he was then undermined and deemed too soft on the players etc etc so they got in a hard man who would sort out the dressing room and stand for no nonsense and all that bollocks. In short they brought in the then PL's answer to Mark Hughes yes a round of applause for the Blackburn manager Graeme Souness. Who said history doesn't repeat itself.

You also forgot money. These days money is the first step to success. With money you buy the best management team and provide them with the funds to get the players to make the best team. Once these are in place the rest is down to sheer hard work within the framework of a happy and harmonious camp and with everyone pulling for the common good.

Its pretty simple really :)

 

[julio jordio]

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You really are a simple fence-sitter aren't you mate?

Floats like the wind, knee jerk after every defeat wanting him out, changing your mind back again when they next win a game.

Maybe having a principled view isn't for you, but I like to think I evaluate things a bit more than that, and that my opinions are a bit more considered than yours.

Get beat by WBA will at least give you the chance to change your minds again anyway...

My view is that I want what is best for my club, I want some sort of success and I don't care how we get it as long as it's sooner rather than later, I'm assuming you're of the same opinion? Hypothetically, you're the owner: you sack hughes. I'm the owner: I keep Hughes. Who'll get success first?

All I'm saying is... if you have an opinion... stick with it for a while, try to think it through, to defend it.

Not to change your mind after every result!

If you want Hughes In, then don't change your mind sfter every defeat. Or if you want him out, don't change your mind after every win!

It's like being married, you have to stick it out even though it's crap at times!

Well then maybe that's why I'm not married!