Prestwich_Blue said:I'm sure someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. Name's on the tip of my tongue. I'll get back to you when I remember it.strongbowholic said:Does anyone think a club should be able to spend whatever they want and that it has nothing to do with UEFA?
Bastard nicking my point! It's about the only contribution I've made to this thread too. I tend to back away when the grown ups are talking.Prestwich_Blue said:I'm sure someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. Name's on the tip of my tongue. I'll get back to you when I remember it.strongbowholic said:Does anyone think a club should be able to spend whatever they want and that it has nothing to do with UEFA?
oakiecokie said:I think its silly that we can`t spend our own money.Anyone else ?
Listen. I've worked hard in this thread and now have a headache. I deserve a little bit of fun.strongbowholic said:Bastard nicking my point! It's about the only contribution I've made to this thread too. I tend to back away when the grown ups are talking.Prestwich_Blue said:I'm sure someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. Name's on the tip of my tongue. I'll get back to you when I remember it.strongbowholic said:Does anyone think a club should be able to spend whatever they want and that it has nothing to do with UEFA?
oakiecokie said:I think its silly that we can`t spend our own money.Anyone else ?
ffplay said:Prestwich - I understand what you are saying- yes I have read the club accounts and seen the RPT item.
Matty made a great point. Prestwich, you might well be right and the IP item will definitely withstand the challenge. If so then their Break Even task is £6.5m easier than I have said. I really don't know about this item as frustratingly we don't know what it is.
I really can't see how the player write-down could be treated any way other than i have said.
The £80m vs £52.5m looks closer to ££52.5m to me. However that might be light - as someone helfully pointed out on here, Hart,Zaballeta and ano might need to be added (I am not close to when they signed but surely Hart has been here for years). There has been some rule clarification since Swiss Ramble wrote his piece hence it could be light. if so, that means the £52.5m is understated by the value of their old contracts. If all on say £50k pw that is around £7m? So the £52.5m might need to £60m. Still doesn't look like £80m to me but we have discussed that.
I think this thread has probably died a death now - send me an email if you have a specific query and I hope this was useful.
blue b4 the moon said:Think it's time for us to do a Poznan. ;)
gooner2 said:Prestwich_Blue said:I'm sure someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. Name's on the tip of my tongue. I'll get back to you when I remember it.strongbowholic said:Does anyone think a club should be able to spend whatever they want and that it has nothing to do with UEFA?
I think most smart people will see that uefa are getting involved in something that has nothing to do with them. It like goverment telling private commerical buisness they can,t spend too much money. Their be laughed out of the buliding if they tried that in other sectors.
strongbowholic said:Does anyone think a club should be able to spend whatever they want and that it has nothing to do with UEFA?
gooner2 said:2sheikhs said:So you wouldn't mind if we put in a £20mil bid for Ramsey then?gooner2 said:I am not expect. But it seems clear to me. A club should be allowed to spend whatever it wants. Why are uefa getting involved in what a private buisness does. You would not tell primark that they can,t spend money would you on their stores. Uefa just being silly and are bit clueless if you ask me.
Of course not but he would not leave us now we top of the league. You can bid whatever you like. its your money at the end of the day.
CC1 said:gooner2 said:Prestwich_Blue said:I'm sure someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. Name's on the tip of my tongue. I'll get back to you when I remember it.
I think most smart people will see that uefa are getting involved in something that has nothing to do with them. It like goverment telling private commerical buisness they can,t spend too much money. Their be laughed out of the buliding if they tried that in other sectors.
Hey, Gooner2 - could you have a quick word with this FFP expert. He might listen to you
I think you're on your own with that one oakie, certainly based on the posts in this thread.oakiecokie said:I think its silly that we can`t spend our own money.Anyone else ?
gooner2 said:CC1 said:ffplay said:Prestwich posts something interesting:
"The losses shouldn't be more than £60m and are more likely to be closer to £50m"
I think it is entirely possible that losses could be £60m for City. The whole point of my piece was to explain how the FFP rules work and the exclusions etc that will be applied once the headline figure is announced. It is interesting to note that even if City posted £60m loss, AND the wages were the pre june 2010 contracts were the somewhat implausible £80m, City would, I believe still fail by around £30m.
The point of the piece was so people could play about with the numbers and model the scenarios. Have a go. If nothing else this interchange has probably helped City fans understand the rules better.
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1. Please present some facts rather than your opinions
2. You haven't EXPLAINED how the rules work - you've given what you think is correct but have been proved wrong over and over again but continue to reply by continuing to use words such as 'suggest' 'think' 'could' 'might'
All i know is city should be allowed to spend what they like just like any other club.
gooner2 said:Prestwich_Blue said:I'm sure someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. Name's on the tip of my tongue. I'll get back to you when I remember it.strongbowholic said:Does anyone think a club should be able to spend whatever they want and that it has nothing to do with UEFA?
I think most smart people will see that uefa are getting involved in something that has nothing to do with them. It like goverment telling private commerical buisness they can,t spend too much money. Their be laughed out of the buliding if they tried that in other sectors.
lloydie said:gooner2 said:CC1 said:1. Please present some facts rather than your opinions
2. You haven't EXPLAINED how the rules work - you've given what you think is correct but have been proved wrong over and over again but continue to reply by continuing to use words such as 'suggest' 'think' 'could' 'might'
All i know is city should be allowed to spend what they like just like any other club.
Yes we've heard you.
Please stop posting the same point over and over again, the constant repetition is extremely irritating.
Not unlike the "Discuss Pellegrini" thread.lloydie said:Yes we've heard you.
Please stop posting the same point over and over again, the constant repetition is extremely irritating.
gooner2 said:lloydie said:gooner2 said:All i know is city should be allowed to spend what they like just like any other club.
Yes we've heard you.
Please stop posting the same point over and over again, the constant repetition is extremely irritating.
How is that repeating myself. I was responding to posters point. So don,t go down that route mate.
gooner2 said:lloydie said:gooner2 said:All i know is city should be allowed to spend what they like just like any other club.
Yes we've heard you.
Please stop posting the same point over and over again, the constant repetition is extremely irritating.
How is that repeating myself. I was responding to posters point. So don,t go down that route mate.
Barcon said:gooner2 said:lloydie said:Yes we've heard you.
Please stop posting the same point over and over again, the constant repetition is extremely irritating.
How is that repeating myself. I was responding to posters point. So don,t go down that route mate.
Because you said it twice on the previous page. You have made two points in 300 posts pal. You'r boring us.
gooner2 said:lloydie said:gooner2 said:All i know is city should be allowed to spend what they like just like any other club.
Yes we've heard you.
Please stop posting the same point over and over again, the constant repetition is extremely irritating.
How is that repeating myself. I was responding to posters point. So don,t go down that route mate.