This was the lead story on yahoo.com in the USA tonight

[kass_best]

American fottball is soft as shit! if they want to watch a real game

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66wK9zAppHc&feature=related[/youtube]

Yanks are fucking clueless!!

Tired of delude people who claim AF is soft because of its pads and helmet. Hear the same shittalking and ignorant stuf about icehockey. Have to be sooo comfortably with all the soft pads and big helmet....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MKtA_nJLbc[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMMp72VcyRQ[/youtube]

Both hits are legal and the other player should raised his vision or thats what you get.

"edit" forgot to make my point, the pads an helmets are there because people would get injured every five minute..."

and some talking about technical and football is soooo blabla... nothing compared to icehockey. there is alot of central defenders with no first touch or no technical skill at all and they are still pros.

Football is by far my favorite sport to watch, but its a game created so everyone could play. you dont really have to be great at anything, just decent in everything and you would do just fine. the tactical skill is another easy thing to pick up compared to alot of other sports. dont be deluded, its the best game in the world because it average in everything...maybe except all the diving which I really hate...

to be a pro in a demanding sport, you have to train harder/more/smarter than everyone else, with or without talent because there is no shortcuts. if you know a pro, in any demanding game, you know this.

these topics are so ridiculous...

Do you play football? because its not just a case of kicking a ball, its alot more technical than Ice Hockey, Ice Hockey is for shit American Footballers who dont make it and if they are shit at that they move to Baseball.


Sorry but them fouls in the Ice Skating arena is just bad play and yes they are padded up to fuck the fairies. Rugby League is man on man and you have to stop him, no matter what with no pads on. Most American sports are fucking shit and boring as fuck! that’s why they don’t like football (the real game) and they don’t play Rugby because they are soft arses.

Rugby (Most of the world) = American Football with gloves on (America!)

Which is the biggest sport outside there own country?

No I dont play football. I did as a youth. And icehockey. Football is a game everyone can play without any skills to begin with. If football would be so technical why is there so many players who are so lousy in shooting, passing, crossing etc... How many players have we had the last 10 years that werent able to do anything right on the field? and still, pros...

My country? Sweden? The anwser to that is the same as for every other on this board (and country)...

Havent watch that much of rugby, looks like a tough game, but its ridiculous to see when they make a love pile and just starts to huge and cuddle with each other. Brittish women isnt THAT bad looking.<br /><br />-- Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:22 am --<br /><br />

and some talking about technical and football is soooo blabla... nothing compared to icehockey. there is alot of central defenders with no first touch or no technical skill at all and they are still pros.

Football is by far my favorite sport to watch, but its a game created so everyone could play. you dont really have to be great at anything, just decent in everything and you would do just fine. the tactical skill is another easy thing to pick up compared to alot of other sports. dont be deluded, its the best game in the world because it average in everything...maybe except all the diving which I really hate...

You really have got no concept whatsoever of how good you actually have to be to make it as a professional footballer. Being "average at everything" will get you absolutely nowhere near being a professional.

Saying there are professional centre halves with no first touch or technical skill is so naiive. That position is probably the one that relies least on touch and technique, but they still have to be astonishingly good.

They might look shite and clumsy compared to other pros but I guarantee Titus Bramble (shit centre half) has a first touch that is 100 times better than anyone you have ever played against.

Since I have played with people who have made it to the Swedish nationalteam I actually think I do. Average as compared to what it takes to other sports, yes.

If I have played with players in the NHL and swedish national hockey team, well yes on that one also.

Bramble is a good example that you dont have to be great, not even close, at anything technical. Still a pro. Alot of wingers cant make a decent cross. Filippo Inzaghi can score goals, but he isnt good at dribbling, shooting or heading...

Wasnt people trashing American football about the technical stuf? And you mention Bramble... You want to lose this discussion arent you?

Why didnt you quote my sentence about demanding sports. Football isnt demanding? Since we are talking about pros, of cooourse you have to be better than the rest playing the game, thats why they are pros!.. But if you compare different sports/games you find out fast that football is a game when decent is just enough, even in the technical aspect of the game compared to people plaing the same game.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Tired of delude people who claim AF is soft because of its pads and helmet. Hear the same shittalking and ignorant stuf about icehockey. Have to be sooo comfortably with all the soft pads and big helmet....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MKtA_nJLbc[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMMp72VcyRQ[/youtube]

Both hits are legal and the other player should raised his vision or thats what you get.

"edit" forgot to make my point, the pads an helmets are there because people would get injured every five minute..."

and some talking about technical and football is soooo blabla... nothing compared to icehockey. there is alot of central defenders with no first touch or no technical skill at all and they are still pros.

Football is by far my favorite sport to watch, but its a game created so everyone could play. you dont really have to be great at anything, just decent in everything and you would do just fine. the tactical skill is another easy thing to pick up compared to alot of other sports. dont be deluded, its the best game in the world because it average in everything...maybe except all the diving which I really hate...

to be a pro in a demanding sport, you have to train harder/more/smarter than everyone else, with or without talent because there is no shortcuts. if you know a pro, in any demanding game, you know this.

these topics are so ridiculous...

Do you play football? because its not just a case of kicking a ball, its alot more technical than Ice Hockey, Ice Hockey is for shit American Footballers who dont make it and if they are shit at that they move to Baseball.


Sorry but them fouls in the Ice Skating arena is just bad play and yes they are padded up to fuck the fairies. Rugby League is man on man and you have to stop him, no matter what with no pads on. Most American sports are fucking shit and boring as fuck! that’s why they don’t like football (the real game) and they don’t play Rugby because they are soft arses.

Rugby (Most of the world) = American Football with gloves on (America!)

Which is the biggest sport outside there own country?

No I dont play football. I did as a youth. And icehockey. Football is a game everyone can play without any skills to begin with. If football would be so technical why is there so many players who are so lousy in shooting, passing, crossing etc... How many players have we had the last 10 years that werent able to do anything right on the field? and still, pros...

My country? Sweden? The anwser to that is the same as for every other on this board (and country)...

Havent watch that much of rugby, looks like a tough game, but its ridiculous to see when they make a love pile and just starts to huge and cuddle with each other. Brittish women isnt THAT bad looking.

-- Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:22 am --

and some talking about technical and football is soooo blabla... nothing compared to icehockey. there is alot of central defenders with no first touch or no technical skill at all and they are still pros.

Football is by far my favorite sport to watch, but its a game created so everyone could play. you dont really have to be great at anything, just decent in everything and you would do just fine. the tactical skill is another easy thing to pick up compared to alot of other sports. dont be deluded, its the best game in the world because it average in everything...maybe except all the diving which I really hate...

You really have got no concept whatsoever of how good you actually have to be to make it as a professional footballer. Being "average at everything" will get you absolutely nowhere near being a professional.

Saying there are professional centre halves with no first touch or technical skill is so naiive. That position is probably the one that relies least on touch and technique, but they still have to be astonishingly good.

They might look shite and clumsy compared to other pros but I guarantee Titus Bramble (shit centre half) has a first touch that is 100 times better than anyone you have ever played against.

Since I have played with people who have made it to the Swedish nationalteam I actually think I do. Average as compared to what it takes to other sports, yes.

If I have played with players in the NHL and swedish national hockey team, well yes on that one also.

Bramble is a good example that you dont have to be great, not even close, at anything technical. Still a pro. Alot of wingers cant make a decent cross. Filippo Inzaghi can score goals, but he isnt good at dribbling, shooting or heading...

Wasnt people trashing American football about the technical stuf? And you mention Bramble... You want to lose this discussion arent you?

Why didnt you quote my sentence about demanding sports. Football isnt demanding? Since we are talking about pros, of cooourse you have to be better than the rest playing the game, thats why they are pros!.. But if you compare different sports/games you find out fast that football is a game when decent is just enough, even in the technical aspect of the game compared to people plaing the same game.

Firstly, I think you're lying. Secondly, 'decent is just enough' to make it as a professional footballer?! Are you absolutely off your head?!

The one thing I agree with you is that anyone can play it for fun. You don't need to be especially big, tall, fast, whatever to be able to play for fun / at school or whatever.

But to be good enough to make it as a professional, especially at the highest level, you have to be outrageously good.

If you took the most talented "athlete" from the NFL, gave him and 6 months intense football training, his touch wouldn't good enough be lick Brambles winnits!

You can be of average build / strength / speed and make it as a professional footballer. But your technique has to be of an incredible standard. Put Bramble up front in the US College soccer league or their best amateur league if they have one, and he would be the best player by a mile.

 

[kass_best]

Do you play football? because its not just a case of kicking a ball, its alot more technical than Ice Hockey, Ice Hockey is for shit American Footballers who dont make it and if they are shit at that they move to Baseball.


Sorry but them fouls in the Ice Skating arena is just bad play and yes they are padded up to fuck the fairies. Rugby League is man on man and you have to stop him, no matter what with no pads on. Most American sports are fucking shit and boring as fuck! that’s why they don’t like football (the real game) and they don’t play Rugby because they are soft arses.

Rugby (Most of the world) = American Football with gloves on (America!)

Which is the biggest sport outside there own country?

No I dont play football. I did as a youth. And icehockey. Football is a game everyone can play without any skills to begin with. If football would be so technical why is there so many players who are so lousy in shooting, passing, crossing etc... How many players have we had the last 10 years that werent able to do anything right on the field? and still, pros...

My country? Sweden? The anwser to that is the same as for every other on this board (and country)...

Havent watch that much of rugby, looks like a tough game, but its ridiculous to see when they make a love pile and just starts to huge and cuddle with each other. Brittish women isnt THAT bad looking.

-- Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:22 am --

You really have got no concept whatsoever of how good you actually have to be to make it as a professional footballer. Being "average at everything" will get you absolutely nowhere near being a professional.

Saying there are professional centre halves with no first touch or technical skill is so naiive. That position is probably the one that relies least on touch and technique, but they still have to be astonishingly good.

They might look shite and clumsy compared to other pros but I guarantee Titus Bramble (shit centre half) has a first touch that is 100 times better than anyone you have ever played against.

Since I have played with people who have made it to the Swedish nationalteam I actually think I do. Average as compared to what it takes to other sports, yes.

If I have played with players in the NHL and swedish national hockey team, well yes on that one also.

Bramble is a good example that you dont have to be great, not even close, at anything technical. Still a pro. Alot of wingers cant make a decent cross. Filippo Inzaghi can score goals, but he isnt good at dribbling, shooting or heading...

Wasnt people trashing American football about the technical stuf? And you mention Bramble... You want to lose this discussion arent you?

Why didnt you quote my sentence about demanding sports. Football isnt demanding? Since we are talking about pros, of cooourse you have to be better than the rest playing the game, thats why they are pros!.. But if you compare different sports/games you find out fast that football is a game when decent is just enough, even in the technical aspect of the game compared to people plaing the same game.

Firstly, I think you're lying. Secondly, 'decent is just enough' to make it as a professional footballer?! Are you absolutely off your head?!

The one thing I agree with you is that anyone can play it for fun. You don't need to be especially big, tall, fast, whatever to be able to play for fun / at school or whatever.

But to be good enough to make it as a professional, especially at the highest level, you have to be outrageously good.

If you took the most talented "athlete" from the NFL, gave him and 6 months intense football training, his touch wouldn't good enough be lick Brambles winnits!

You can be of average build / strength / speed and make it as a professional footballer. But your technique has to be of an incredible standard. Put Bramble up front in the US College soccer league or their best amateur league if they have one, and he would be the best player by a mile.

Im sorry, I was lying, of course. You see, I just wanted to be the badest and coolest person on the Internet. I guess i failed miserably.

Outrageously good - yeah, cleraly I disagree with your definition. If Bramble is outrageously good, which other criterias/definitions is there? Give me he whole scale please. I mean, compared to Messi. Bramble is a tree playing with his roots. There are plenty of non-professional players that have better technique (first touch etc) than Bramble. They just suck bigtime in other aspects.

If you ask me, you by far overestimate how important the technique aspect of the game is (its increasing, better and better technique is needed but still).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYRNEfFDw0

De Jong (one of my favorite players btw) has a extremely poor shoot, only decent passing skills (maybe why he always pass to the side) and still one of the best defensive midfielders.

For how long do a player have the ball per game. 1 minut? 1 and a half as most?

Most of the game, the players actually walk around or jogg (11-14 km/h). They make som passes, most players dont even do a shoot atempt, not all players make a tackle, dont do a header and so on....

To sum it up. You exagerate the importance of the technique aspect of the game. There is ALOT of professional players around the world, stop thinking of PL players and Messi and you will se that many players really suck in many aspects of the game.

US College? Yeah doesnt say much to me since Im swedish.

 

[Shaelumstash]

No I dont play football. I did as a youth. And icehockey. Football is a game everyone can play without any skills to begin with. If football would be so technical why is there so many players who are so lousy in shooting, passing, crossing etc... How many players have we had the last 10 years that werent able to do anything right on the field? and still, pros...

My country? Sweden? The anwser to that is the same as for every other on this board (and country)...

Havent watch that much of rugby, looks like a tough game, but its ridiculous to see when they make a love pile and just starts to huge and cuddle with each other. Brittish women isnt THAT bad looking.

-- Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:22 am --



Since I have played with people who have made it to the Swedish nationalteam I actually think I do. Average as compared to what it takes to other sports, yes.

If I have played with players in the NHL and swedish national hockey team, well yes on that one also.

Bramble is a good example that you dont have to be great, not even close, at anything technical. Still a pro. Alot of wingers cant make a decent cross. Filippo Inzaghi can score goals, but he isnt good at dribbling, shooting or heading...

Wasnt people trashing American football about the technical stuf? And you mention Bramble... You want to lose this discussion arent you?

Why didnt you quote my sentence about demanding sports. Football isnt demanding? Since we are talking about pros, of cooourse you have to be better than the rest playing the game, thats why they are pros!.. But if you compare different sports/games you find out fast that football is a game when decent is just enough, even in the technical aspect of the game compared to people plaing the same game.

Firstly, I think you're lying. Secondly, 'decent is just enough' to make it as a professional footballer?! Are you absolutely off your head?!

The one thing I agree with you is that anyone can play it for fun. You don't need to be especially big, tall, fast, whatever to be able to play for fun / at school or whatever.

But to be good enough to make it as a professional, especially at the highest level, you have to be outrageously good.

If you took the most talented "athlete" from the NFL, gave him and 6 months intense football training, his touch wouldn't good enough be lick Brambles winnits!

You can be of average build / strength / speed and make it as a professional footballer. But your technique has to be of an incredible standard. Put Bramble up front in the US College soccer league or their best amateur league if they have one, and he would be the best player by a mile.

Im sorry, I was lying, of course. You see, I just wanted to be the badest and coolest person on the Internet. I guess i failed miserably.

Outrageously good - yeah, cleraly I disagree with your definition. If Bramble is outrageously good, which other criterias/definitions is there? Give me he whole scale please. I mean, compared to Messi. Bramble is a tree playing with his roots. There are plenty of non-professional players that have better technique (first touch etc) than Bramble. They just suck bigtime in other aspects.

If you ask me, you by far overestimate how important the technique aspect of the game is (its increasing, better and better technique is needed but still).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYRNEfFDw0

De Jong (one of my favorite players btw) has a extremely poor shoot, only decent passing skills (maybe why he always pass to the side) and still one of the best defensive midfielders.

For how long do a player have the ball per game. 1 minut? 1 and a half as most?

Most of the game, the players actually walk around or jogg (11-14 km/h). They make som passes, most players dont even do a shoot atempt, not all players make a tackle, dont do a header and so on....

To sum it up. You exagerate the importance of the technique aspect of the game. There is ALOT of professional players around the world, stop thinking of PL players and Messi and you will se that many players really suck in many aspects of the game.

US College? Yeah doesnt say much to me since Im swedish.

You really haven't got a clue. You are asking for a scale of how good your first touch has to be, but of course there is no scale! As far as I'm aware there is no scientific, mathematical study into first touch in football. But ask anyone who has played at a decent level how good you have to be compared to the "average guy".

If it is not down to technique, what do think separates a professional footballer from the average guy on the street? There are around 2 billion men who would consider football their first choice sport and there are just over 50,000 professionals.

What separates the 50,000 from the other 1.99 billion? After all, if they are all just "average at most stuff" there must be something that makes them have an edge?! Gimp

 

[kcmcfc]

Yes, but who has the bigger penis?

 

[Shaelumstash]

Yes, but who has the bigger penis?

Yaya Toure

 

[argyle]

For those that say American Football is for softies here's a few vids. Notice how in the first vid most the hits are in slow-mo as due to the speed at which AF is played (because of the forward pass) its difficult to see just how hard they hit.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZoPujuOQiI&feature=related[/youtube]

Ndamukong Suh. Imagine a 6'4, 22 stone wall of muscle crashing into you at 15mph.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBNo1jj1h54&feature=related[/youtube]

Ndamukong Suh Part 2. Showing how an average guy compares.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH5sb320kaw&feature=related[/youtube]

 

[Jackson-ctid]

Why are americans greatest arguments for their sport about "Hardest Hits"?

Seems kinda lame tbh, us normal people don't idolise the likes of Gattuso and Essien for their "hard hits"... get a grip you bunch of sad individuals, sorry but to idolise a sport based on it's level of male on male contact is just gay.

 

[taconinja]

Why are americans greatest arguments for their sport about "Hardest Hits"?

Seems kinda lame tbh, us normal people don't idolise the likes of Gattuso and Essien for their "hard hits"... get a grip you bunch of sad individuals, sorry but to idolise a sport based on it's level of male on male contact is just gay.

Perhaps it was brought up because someone brought up how hard rugby players hit? Couldn't be, could it? No, impossible!

 

[argyle]

Well I'm not American but I replied with AF's hard hits due to misinformed people claiming AF is soft.