This weekends other Prem Games 15-17 Aug

Marvin said:
Hamann Pineapple said:
How these experts cannot determine Costa leaving his trailing foot in is beyond me. Dive all day long.
I thought kt was a dive as well. There was contact, but he was looking to go down


It was very Ashley Young esque.

He dived well before the contact and was trying to make the ref look a ****.

Correct decision imo.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Castiel said:
Great performance, bit disappointing that we dropped off in the second half though. I don't think Jose intended to close out the entire half (not till Mikel and Willian came on anyway), the players just dropped the intensity after going 2 up. I think he'll be bollocking some players over that despite the win. Nevertheless, the first half performance was the best I've seen us play in a while and these bottom half teams were our bane last season. Very promising start.
Completely agree and said as much about the reason the performance dropped off. I definitely think a couple will get a bollocking.

There's absolutely no way any of those Chelsea players will be getting a bollocking.

It was men v boys and there was no need to exert themselves any more than they did. They were in complete control.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Marvin said:
Hamann Pineapple said:
How these experts cannot determine Costa leaving his trailing foot in is beyond me. Dive all day long.
I thought kt was a dive as well. There was contact, but he was looking to go down

Looking to do down does not make it any less of a penalty. The attacking player has no reason to get out of the way if his opponent once to foul him. There is a difference between leaving your foot to be taken out and moving your foot into the opponent to initiate contact. A penalty every time for me.

No difference you are still initiating contact, whether it be from side front, back or upside down.
 
Stoned Rose said:
supercrystal7 said:
Castiel said:
Great performance, bit disappointing that we dropped off in the second half though. I don't think Jose intended to close out the entire half (not till Mikel and Willian came on anyway), the players just dropped the intensity after going 2 up. I think he'll be bollocking some players over that despite the win. Nevertheless, the first half performance was the best I've seen us play in a while and these bottom half teams were our bane last season. Very promising start.
Completely agree and said as much about the reason the performance dropped off. I definitely think a couple will get a bollocking.

There's absolutely no way any of those Chelsea players will be getting a bollocking.

It was men v boys and there was no need to exert themselves any more than they did. They were in complete control.
Mourinho is a slave driver! There was an unexplained drop in intensity. It obviously wasn't a major issue but I'm almost certain that isn't what Jose wanted them to do. It was basically complacency and that can kill you against better sides. He didn't do anything to suggest he wanted to close out the game at half time, no Mikel/Willian on early, no change in shape, we just went into cruise control and stopped with the quick incisive passing and darting runs into space presumably because the players felt the game was won. Jose will want them to be more ruthless until he makes the switch into closing it out.
 
Castiel said:
Stoned Rose said:
supercrystal7 said:
Completely agree and said as much about the reason the performance dropped off. I definitely think a couple will get a bollocking.

There's absolutely no way any of those Chelsea players will be getting a bollocking.

It was men v boys and there was no need to exert themselves any more than they did. They were in complete control.
Mourinho is a slave driver! There was an unexplained drop in intensity. It obviously wasn't a major issue but I'm almost certain that isn't what Jose wanted them to do. It was basically complacency and that can kill you against better sides. He didn't do anything to suggest he wanted to close out the game at half time, no Mikel/Willian on early, no change in shape, we just went into cruise control and stopped with the quick incisive passing and darting runs into space presumably because the players felt the game was won. Jose will want them to be more ruthless until he makes the switch into closing it out.

It's early days, you don't know how much the 1st half took out of them. Game won, so rest a bit ready for next game.
 
Castiel said:
Stoned Rose said:
supercrystal7 said:
Completely agree and said as much about the reason the performance dropped off. I definitely think a couple will get a bollocking.

There's absolutely no way any of those Chelsea players will be getting a bollocking.

It was men v boys and there was no need to exert themselves any more than they did. They were in complete control.
Mourinho is a slave driver! There was an unexplained drop in intensity. It obviously wasn't a major issue but I'm almost certain that isn't what Jose wanted them to do. It was basically complacency and that can kill you against better sides. He didn't do anything to suggest he wanted to close out the game at half time, no Mikel/Willian on early, no change in shape, we just went into cruise control and stopped with the quick incisive passing and darting runs into space presumably because the players felt the game was won. Jose will want them to be more ruthless until he makes the switch into closing it out.
Once I again I have to agree with Castiel. The drop in intensity won't have gone down well with Mourinho and he will be speaking to them about it.

EDIT

Also it was not all the players that dropped their intensity. It was certain players, which is why I think Mourinho won't be happy about it.

prestonibbo_mcfc said:
supercrystal7 said:
Marvin said:
I thought kt was a dive as well. There was contact, but he was looking to go down

Looking to do down does not make it any less of a penalty. The attacking player has no reason to get out of the way if his opponent once to foul him. There is a difference between leaving your foot to be taken out and moving your foot into the opponent to initiate contact. A penalty every time for me.

No difference you are still initiating contact, whether it be from side front, back or upside down.
Maybe I did not explain myself well enough. It was the keeper that run int Costa. Yes Costa could have jumped over him, but the attack has obligation to get out of the way of a defender that commits himself rashly.

For a comparison the penalty Costa got against Holland in the world cup was an example of him initiating contact and leaving. We will have to agree to disagree.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Castiel said:
Stoned Rose said:
There's absolutely no way any of those Chelsea players will be getting a bollocking.

It was men v boys and there was no need to exert themselves any more than they did. They were in complete control.
Mourinho is a slave driver! There was an unexplained drop in intensity. It obviously wasn't a major issue but I'm almost certain that isn't what Jose wanted them to do. It was basically complacency and that can kill you against better sides. He didn't do anything to suggest he wanted to close out the game at half time, no Mikel/Willian on early, no change in shape, we just went into cruise control and stopped with the quick incisive passing and darting runs into space presumably because the players felt the game was won. Jose will want them to be more ruthless until he makes the switch into closing it out.
Once I again I have to agree with Castiel. The drop in intensity won't have gone down well with Mourinho and he will be speaking to them about it.

EDIT

Also it was not all the players that dropped their intensity. It was certain players, which is why I think Mourinho won't be happy about it.

prestonibbo_mcfc said:
supercrystal7 said:
Looking to do down does not make it any less of a penalty. The attacking player has no reason to get out of the way if his opponent once to foul him. There is a difference between leaving your foot to be taken out and moving your foot into the opponent to initiate contact. A penalty every time for me.

No difference you are still initiating contact, whether it be from side front, back or upside down.
Maybe I did not explain myself well enough. It was the keeper that run int Costa. Yes Costa could have jumped over him, but the attack has obligation to get out of the way of a defender that commits himself rashly.

For a comparison the penalty Costa got against Holland in the world cup was an example of him initiating contact and leaving. We will have to agree to disagree.

Yes we will especially as the goalkeeper didn't run into him ;-)
 
Nothing seperates City or Chelsea for me. Both have world class squads and and talent in abundance and the ability to spend at will

Say arsenal comfortable for 3rd
 
1st half they looked fitter than us, but they tailed off quickly 2nd half. So maybe they felt it more than it looked.
I believe there will be a fair gap to 3rd this season. With us and Chelsea up top. Obviously I am biased and providing
it doesn't take too long to hit our stride, I fancy us strongly. Still not long till we can compare our 2 sides.
 

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