Lol that was never my point. My point is, English teams back in the day used to be good. There used to be 2-3 teams in the Champions League Semis every year, it was like a given. Plus, English sides used to perform in the Europa like Fulham did. Nowadays, English struggle to beat any half decent side away from home. And now, Tottenham are losing to an Azeri club at home. I'm talking about the huge decline. This year, only Chelsea are guaranteed to go through the groups. Maybe Arsenal might struggle but if they do go through, it will be their annually Round of 16 triumph.