Damocles said:
Vicky said:
Yes I did live through the swales times. at least then we had some dignity!!!!!
What planet are you on?
He wrecked our club, with a proper show of classless behaviour. Not sacking a manager classless, I mean fucking the club about just so you can be a member of the FA, classless. Oh, and buying players just because United wanted them classless.
Swales stripped the dignity from the club then, and we have never regained it since.
Agree with the thread.
This sort of statement, comparing the shambles of Swales to these events is astonishing.
I asked this question of people banging on about dignity and integrity yesterday and didn't receive an answer. I'll put it again and I'll be interested to see if there is an answer.
We have jut sacked a manager who has underperformed over his whole time here. It wasn't done in the best way but compared to some other sackings in football then it was not the worst either. It is, in a lot of respects, the nature of the business.
Now we have people willing to slaughter the club and the above claiming that it is worse than the events that went on under Swales.
I can only presume that the person saying that is either lying about being there or is a complete and utter drama queen that can't see beyond events that are fresh in their mind. One day that might have been handled better against years of shambolic, selfish and egotistical behaviour, with numerous people being 'screwed;.
But, this is the question that I want these paragons of virtue to now answer.
You are quite keen now to slaughter the club, call the best owners we have ever had all the names under the sun because you feel that they have offended your morals.
I'll leave aside the holes that can be picked in your whole moral argument and not compare the morals shown by various peope during their time here.
However, let's talk about something that you will all most definitely remember.
Let's talk about the previous owner.
Let's talk about how he connected the name of this club with issues that no football club should ever be associated with.
How he dragged this club's name into political and financial corruption affairs.
How he dragged this club's name into human rights abuse allegations.
How he used this club as a political tool for a movement on the other side of the world without any concern for whether the supporters had any support for that political movement or how it fitted in with the history of the club.
How he made all sorts of big promises and couldn't keep them.
How he took the club to the brink of extinction, all in the name of his vanity project.
How he sacked and undermined a manager over 6 months.
How he had that manager manage the team, with everyone knowing he was being sacked, for weeks and weeks, not just one game.
I could go on.
Now, that is bringing shame to the name of this club. The club's good name was associated with things that it should not be within 100 miles of. The day to day and footballing side of things descended into farce. The club was a properganda tool for a politican with a very, very dubious background.
So, I'd like to know, if the sacking of a manager in a much more dignified way than the previous manager was sacked has got you so outraged, so disgusted with the club and so wound up, how did all of the above affect you?
You must have been about to explode with rage, given that it was all a million times worse in terms of dignity, integrity and decency.
Was it a hunger stirke, did you write to MPs, did you slaughter those that really were damaging the name of the club in a much more vocal way than you are now trying to disparage the owners?
Cos all I remember is, in general, a wall of silence, with people willing to put up with all sorts of crap because they had Thaksin bullshit promises to fall back upon.
Seems to me that people pick and choose when they bring words like dignity and integrity on these issues depending on how much personal investment they have made in the manager.
The last few days events could happen every day for 100 days and it still wouldn't come anywhere near how Thaksin damaged the name and reputation of this club.
Integrity? Yeah, right. Only when it suits though, huh?