Tipping on ordering

I used to work at a posh hotel restaurant in my younger days being a kitchen porter and it's the hardest job there,used to piss me off when end of shift all the waiters/waitress would all share the tips with eachother while me and other kp wouldn't get anything despite earning minimum wage we would still be cleaning long after they went home.
 
So restaurant staff should be under paid and undervalued as well because your mates Mrs is ?
Im all for restaurants paying a decent wage and not putting a service charge on, as long as everyone is happy to expect higher restaurant bills as part of it, so the staff get a decent wage.
Think many those arguing against service charges just want to pay less and don’t care what the staff get paid,
Don’t know anywhere that has a 20% service charge anyway 12 is about the norm 15 the highest I’ve seen
You can post on the internet all you like though about fucking it off, it’s here for good and the vast majority pay it without question.
I never said that staff should be undervalued. But if employers have to be honest and charge more so be it. I’d love to see your reaction if you filled your car up with £50 quids worth of fuel then got charged £55 at the till because a member of staff had served you. It’s the same principle after all
 
I never said that staff should be undervalued. But if employers have to be honest and charge more so be it. I’d love to see your reaction if you filled your car up with £50 quids worth of fuel then got charged £55 at the till because a member of staff had served you. It’s the same principle after all
Fair enough but I don’t think its changing to restaurants charging more and paying more , nor so I think most of those complaining are asking for an increase of 10/15% on their bills people need to either get on with it as it is or don’t.
As it is restaurants have problems recruiting and retaining good staff because there are a lot of vacancies out there and the good staff are sought after and obviously the more expensive restaurants 12% of a higher bill means higher wages, get to a michelin starred restaurant level and work out the 12 %s on the wages though in high pressure environments.
 
I was at a bar in Cheadle a couple of weeks ago, can't remember the name of it. I was using my phone to pay and was asked did I want to leave a tip!! I dont mind paying a tip if I have been for a meal and the service and meal were good, but not when I am ordering drinks only.
You must be of an age when almost everybody gave a small tip when ordering drinks in a pub surely? For years and years the accepted amount for ' One for yourself' or 'Take your own' was 10p. Then the odd person, normally in a 'posh' pub in town started taking 20p and I can actually still vividly recall the first time someone took 50p. I was talking about it almost non stop for about a month afterwards.

Anyway, you can't drink in town very often. Probably at least 50% of pubs there now have the tip option on the card reader, that you have to navigate before you get round to paying.
 
So a small bar he gets a thousand dollars a night tips ?
See my response to Grunge. It is a small bar (ask Bimbo) in the summer there are regular music events in the Valley and particularly with all the tourists they get packed. There’s only a couple of options for staying out and drinking until 2am and this is the favourite.
 
If you would had wanted a receipt off me I would have signed it NTW, 'no tip wanker'!
I worked for the COOP as an airport chauffeur years ago and picked up a load of holidaying taxi drivers from Manc airport. Took them all to their homes in Liverpool and didn’t get a tip from any of them. Since that evening, I have refused to tip taxi drivers.
 
Another example of Americanisation in the UK, the whole tipping culture is expanding.

To be asked for a tip on ordering drinks only is ridiculas.
 
I worked for the COOP as an airport chauffeur years ago and picked up a load of holidaying taxi drivers from Manc airport. Took them all to their homes in Liverpool and didn’t get a tip from any of them. Since that evening, I have refused to tip taxi drivers.
That's pretty poor from the Scouse taxi drivers, they should have sorted you a drink. I knew that a contract job or card payment resulted in no tip, so I had no expectations.
 
I was at a bar in Cheadle a couple of weeks ago, can't remember the name of it. I was using my phone to pay and was asked did I want to leave a tip!! I dont mind paying a tip if I have been for a meal and the service and meal were good, but not when I am ordering drinks only.
I live in Cheadle, was it the bar infused by any chance?
 
Just back from Italy.
The “cover charge” for just sitting down means they get no tip from me no matter how good it all was.
 
Another example of Americanisation in the UK, the whole tipping culture is expanding.

To be asked for a tip on ordering drinks only is ridiculas.
Maybe the 'being asked' bit is new but people have been tipping barstaff for pulling drinks probably since before America was discovered.
 
Maybe the 'being asked' bit is new but people have been tipping barstaff for pulling drinks probably since before America was discovered.

People have always tipped when they wanted though, in this country it's not expected and shouldn't be.

Robbing cheeky bastards putting it on the bill.
 

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