Today's shooting in America thread

I would suggest the word 'regulated' is fairly key also.
And the word "militia" if we really wanted to play games.

Everyone is allowed to own a gun with no restrictions -- hell, the US government could actually provide firearms for free even -- but no one is allowed to actually employ/use/carry it unless the US is involved in an official declaration of war. So the gun is a "break glass in case of emergency" thing, just like the fire alarm button.
 
And the word "militia" if we really wanted to play games.

Everyone is allowed to own a gun with no restrictions -- hell, the US government could actually provide firearms for free even -- but no one is allowed to actually employ/use/carry it unless the US is involved in an official declaration of war. So the gun is a "break glass in case of emergency" thing, just like the fire alarm button.
As it is in Switzerland
 
I didn't know that. Interesting.
Every male adult has to serve (I think) minimum one year in the Swiss Army.
They are then issued a gun and a box of ammo.
Once a year they have to take their gun and box of ammo to a specific place. The gun is checked to see if it has been fired (and I think given a bit of a service / check). The ammo counted to see if any missing. Big trouble if all is not as it should be.....
And off you go for a other year.
 
The fact you -- as a law-abiding gun owner -- think this is "amusing" is central to the problem.

You have already said you are in favor of more significant regulation on firearms if I recall correctly. Why wouldn't you be welcoming these relatively modest changes?
Who said I was opposed to anything said?

I just think it is funny to watch a handful of people on here, most of them not even living in the States or with any understanding of the broader issue, “solve” the 200+ year issue of 2A.

Additionally, what you see as “modest” creates a financial burden on law abiding owners that illegal gun owners couldn’t care less about! Do you think gangbangers are going to

A) “Register” their guns? That’s going to have to be a part of the issue, right, as if you are going to be required to get liability insurance for guns, the insurer is going to need to know what EXACTLY the liability is, right? In Congress, that’s a NON-STARTER!

B) Do you think that most gun owners have additional free income to even contemplate insuring them? So, no liability insurance makes you a criminal, right? Law abiding made illegal owner.

Good luck! We are all counting on you!

Clearly, with a seven figure umbrella liability insurance policy on top of my auto & home package, paying a few bucks to add this is not an issue to me, but how about the other tens of millions of gun owners?

Its just another of the many, many ways that people have tried to PRICE GUN OWNERS OUT OF BEING A GUN OWNER.

There have been numerous calls, even on here, that if guns are ubiquitous and cheap, then make it prohibitively expensive to buy ammunition. Clearly, those people don’t understand the process of making your own ammo, but regardless, the ONLY WAY to do it in a capitalistic society is to TAX IT. Do you think that plays out in America in 2022? No, me either! Maybe in SFO and Marin County, but you might hear something else coming from Humboldt!!!
 
And the word "militia" if we really wanted to play games.

Everyone is allowed to own a gun with no restrictions -- hell, the US government could actually provide firearms for free even -- but no one is allowed to actually employ/use/carry it unless the US is involved in an official declaration of war. So the gun is a "break glass in case of emergency" thing, just like the fire alarm button.
If only you had 5 seats on SCOTUS, you could change the American understanding of 2A for the past 200+ years.

Sadly, life is not as we wish it, and these words have been argued over since they were written. It’s 2022. Face reality.
 
I just saw on the news that San Jose is going to start requiring all gun owners to have insurance.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not as I don't really understand the reason or it.
 
I just saw on the news that San Jose is going to start requiring all gun owners to have insurance.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not as I don't really understand the reason or it.
What’s Mexico got to do with this?
 
I just saw on the news that San Jose is going to start requiring all gun owners to have insurance.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not as I don't really understand the reason or it.
The Mayor who proposed it said, “Thank you to my council colleagues who continue to show their commitment to reducing gun violence.”

If you can tell me how liability insurance and a tax to own a gun does that, I’d appreciate it.

I’ve tried to decipher that platitude, but am struggling with the logic.

Oh well, it IS San Jose, after all! Maybe they will use the tax monies to clean the streets????!
 

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