Today's shooting in America thread

[Barcon]

Such a naïve statement.

A lot are NOT stolen from legal owners.............they are smuggled across the border from the US. Of course there will always be thefts from legal owners and stores, but nothing anywhere near like you are stating.

Now you've done it. There'll be some serious head scratching now.

 

[idahoblues]

Now you've done it. There'll be some serious head scratching now.

Knickers are twisting all around !

 

[Centurions]

This is what all you smart (non-Americans) are up against when you hope that sentient Americans will rise up against the massively funded, well organized, politicians in their pockets, gun lobby, and hope it is going to give up the gravy…



Yes, they have the same number of votes as I do!

Before I started that video I honestly thought the first one was a sex bot and was wondering what the hell I was watching.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I'm aware of the scale of the problem, but (and I hate using the word 'journey') every journey begins with a single step.

If nobody is willing to take that first step then you might as well just make it a free-for-all (which it pretty much is anyway), and take your chances that you, or any other member of your family won't catch a bullet today, or tomorrow, or next week, or the week after...

Like you, hate to say it, but…

‘Twas always thus.

When I first arrived, and for many years thereafter (as I was living on a college campus is a small town in the country), I had a very similar view to almost every non-American on here.

Then, I got married and we moved to the Big Smoke that is Chicago for our jobs. Life changed. The daily news changed. But, it wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now.

I began to listen, read, and watch a lot more about American politics, because it was clear I was staying. I became a citizen and started voting.

America is not just a country, it is a mindset…an idea…some here would say an ideal. I’m sure many of you laugh at that notion.

However, Americans laugh at Brits, too! “A monarchy? Are you fucking kidding me? We escaped that shit centuries ago, yet you literally BOW to fucking King Charles?!”

They also look at the levels of petty crime, especially burglary, and simply say, “I am not going to be that victim! I will live free or die trying.” It’s no coincidence that “Live free or die” is a state motto!



This sentiment is a FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE of American life.

Some here talk of America’s youth and immaturity as a nation. It’s true. However, that means that people are still alive who knew people who fought in the Civil War, and they knew people who lived during the era of Independence. America is a country that was literally fought for by white settlers and built by immigrant labor, not all if it voluntarily.

It IS young, which means it is growing up with the sentiments of its youth, including Rights enshrined and fought over on the cusp of the Victorian era. When said like that, it doesn’t seem that long ago that these ideas became foundational, does it?

Yes, things change, but these are the foundational ideas of a young nation that still holds large swaths of land as wild, lawless, even. Get West of the Mississippi and gun ownership rises dramatically. Head South of the Mason-Dixon Line and the mentality on the need to protect oneself and one’s land from tyranny rises dramatically.

For many, this is still a frontier country. For others, the large urban areas are less “frontier” and more “Wild Wild West!”

As I’ve said before, and others have said far more eloquently and repeatedly, if shooting Presidents and children isn’t going to change 2A, nothing will…and that was even before we had a nation so deeply divided by race, ideology, and a partisan political divide aided and funded (for their own aims) by deep pockets.

Citizens are fed shit and kept in the dark about what really goes on, by whom, for whose benefit. When you set out to grow mushrooms, what can you expect from those people?!

Good luck to us all.

 

[idahoblues]

CB for Pres !

 

[TonyM]

You could make that same video over here and you'd get a lot of the same answers. There are thick cunts everywhere.

For all we know most of these people would vote for great and good things.

 

[TonyM]

Like you, hate to say it, but…

‘Twas always thus.

When I first arrived, and for many years thereafter (as I was living on a college campus is a small town in the country), I had a very similar view to almost every non-American on here.

Then, I got married and we moved to the Big Smoke that is Chicago for our jobs. Life changed. The daily news changed. But, it wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now.

I began to listen, read, and watch a lot more about American politics, because it was clear I was staying. I became a citizen and started voting.

America is not just a country, it is a mindset…an idea…some here would say an ideal. I’m sure many of you laugh at that notion.

However, Americans laugh at Brits, too! “A monarchy? Are you fucking kidding me? We escaped that shit centuries ago, yet you literally BOW to fucking King Charles?!”

They also look at the levels of petty crime, especially burglary, and simply say, “I am not going to be that victim! I will live free or die trying.” It’s no coincidence that “Live free or die” is a state motto!

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This sentiment is a FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE of American life.

Some here talk of America’s youth and immaturity as a nation. It’s true. However, that means that people are still alive who knew people who fought in the Civil War, and they knew people who lived during the era of Independence. America is a country that was literally fought for by white settlers and built by immigrant labor, not all if it voluntarily.

It IS young, which means it is growing up with the sentiments of its youth, including Rights enshrined and fought over on the cusp of the Victorian era. When said like that, it doesn’t seem that long ago that these ideas became foundational, does it?

Yes, things change, but these are the foundational ideas of a young nation that still holds large swaths of land as wild, lawless, even. Get West of the Mississippi and gun ownership rises dramatically. Head South of the Mason-Dixon Line and the mentality on the need to protect oneself and one’s land from tyranny rises dramatically.

For many, this is still a frontier country. For others, the large urban areas are less “frontier” and more “Wild Wild West!”

As I’ve said before, and others have said far more eloquently and repeatedly, if shooting Presidents and children isn’t going to change 2A, nothing will…and that was even before we had a nation so deeply divided by race, ideology, and a partisan political divide aided and funded (for their own aims) by deep pockets.

Citizens are fed shit and kept in the dark about what really goes on, by whom, for whose benefit. When you set out to grow mushrooms, what can you expect from those people?!

Good luck to us all.

When I lived there too I went through the same adjustment but I was lucky being near Boston so guns weren't a big deal. But drive even 50 miles west past route 146 and you might as well have gone back 50 years.

I'm glad I left. And mostly it was because there was no way I was going to raise a child there (as much as I love my family in Mass - growing up in Ireland is miles safer, richer, healthier, better.)

 

[Username Required]

Like you, hate to say it, but…

‘Twas always thus.

When I first arrived, and for many years thereafter (as I was living on a college campus is a small town in the country), I had a very similar view to almost every non-American on here.

Then, I got married and we moved to the Big Smoke that is Chicago for our jobs. Life changed. The daily news changed. But, it wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now.

I began to listen, read, and watch a lot more about American politics, because it was clear I was staying. I became a citizen and started voting.

America is not just a country, it is a mindset…an idea…some here would say an ideal. I’m sure many of you laugh at that notion.

However, Americans laugh at Brits, too! “A monarchy? Are you fucking kidding me? We escaped that shit centuries ago, yet you literally BOW to fucking King Charles?!”

They also look at the levels of petty crime, especially burglary, and simply say, “I am not going to be that victim! I will live free or die trying.” It’s no coincidence that “Live free or die” is a state motto!

View attachment 73465

This sentiment is a FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE of American life.

Some here talk of America’s youth and immaturity as a nation. It’s true. However, that means that people are still alive who knew people who fought in the Civil War, and they knew people who lived during the era of Independence. America is a country that was literally fought for by white settlers and built by immigrant labor, not all if it voluntarily.

It IS young, which means it is growing up with the sentiments of its youth, including Rights enshrined and fought over on the cusp of the Victorian era. When said like that, it doesn’t seem that long ago that these ideas became foundational, does it?

Yes, things change, but these are the foundational ideas of a young nation that still holds large swaths of land as wild, lawless, even. Get West of the Mississippi and gun ownership rises dramatically. Head South of the Mason-Dixon Line and the mentality on the need to protect oneself and one’s land from tyranny rises dramatically.

For many, this is still a frontier country. For others, the large urban areas are less “frontier” and more “Wild Wild West!”

As I’ve said before, and others have said far more eloquently and repeatedly, if shooting Presidents and children isn’t going to change 2A, nothing will…and that was even before we had a nation so deeply divided by race, ideology, and a partisan political divide aided and funded (for their own aims) by deep pockets.

Citizens are fed shit and kept in the dark about what really goes on, by whom, for whose benefit. When you set out to grow mushrooms, what can you expect from those people?!

Good luck to us all.

America is not just a country, it is a mindset

This is the way.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

America is not just a country, it is a mindset

This is the way.

I guess Sting was right. We're all spirits in the material world.

Of course, Sting is a Brit, and not the sharpest tool in the shed, and also periodically an ass(arse)hole.

As my favo(u)rite music critic once wrote about that line, "We're also MATTER in the material world, which is why things get sticky."

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

It’s no coincidence that “Live free or die” is a state motto!

I note that this isn't the motto of a former slave state.