Today's shooting in America thread

Grassland Blue said:
Perhaps only being able to hold and use the weapons available at the time the 2nd amendment was writren would be the way forward.
This coulld be amendment 2 clause (i).
This would satisfy all concerned surely....?!
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Or even the weapons available at an era of history with an equivalent level of social advancement as the gun nuts, then they could hit each other with rocks to their hearts' content.
 
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Slipper One said:
Well, I enjoy my guns and I find my Beretta O/U a thing of beauty.

I also enjoy my garden and growing things, especially my vegetables, I find it very rewarding and satisfying.

However, I don't enjoy my efforts being destroyed by squirrels, so my shotgun deals with any that happen to stray onto the estate. We also have too many crows, so I'll pop some off to squawk to their hearts content in Crow Heaven. I've come to tolerate the very few rabbits I have around, but again, if they keep up their end of the bargain and don't damage my veggies, then I'll not put them in my sights. The moment they do, they are done!! I have a skunk mooching around the place and he doesn't cause me any problems, although he'll make a huge mess of my lawn in the spring digging up grubs. I can tolerate that as a trade off, it will repair.

We're presently in lambing season and coyotes are a viscous killer, a sheep or lamb hasn't a chance against them. The Maremma do a wonderful job guarding the flock, but if the coyote pack has real designs on mutton, then they are hard pressed to stop an attack.

There's no issue at the moment and eliminating the pack would only bring in new animals to take up the territory and it's perhaps better the devil you know, than the devil you don't.

They are certainly there and very aware of the sheep and unfortunately some poor defenceless animal will have to suffer an awful death first, because it's probably only a matter of time. A rifle will do an admirable job on a coyote.

I also enjoy target shooting out into the field up to 220 yards with the .22, just to keep my eye in.

Personally, I have no interest in shooting deer, moose, bear or turkeys etc, although I do acknowledge that it is important to keep control on the numbers and government wildlife management ensures this using a tag method for hunters.



No humans were harmed in the writing of this.
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Well this explains a lot. People like you are the reason there's still so much resistance to change. I suppose killing a few crows and admiring your "thing of beauty" killer are more important than the lives of schoolchilden.
 
Slipper One said:
Well, I enjoy my guns and I find my Beretta O/U a thing of beauty.

I also enjoy my garden and growing things, especially my vegetables, I find it very rewarding and satisfying.

However, I don't enjoy my efforts being destroyed by squirrels, so my shotgun deals with any that happen to stray onto the estate. We also have too many crows, so I'll pop some off to squawk to their hearts content in Crow Heaven. I've come to tolerate the very few rabbits I have around, but again, if they keep up their end of the bargain and don't damage my veggies, then I'll not put them in my sights. The moment they do, they are done!! I have a skunk mooching around the place and he doesn't cause me any problems, although he'll make a huge mess of my lawn in the spring digging up grubs. I can tolerate that as a trade off, it will repair.

We're presently in lambing season and coyotes are a viscous killer, a sheep or lamb hasn't a chance against them. The Maremma do a wonderful job guarding the flock, but if the coyote pack has real designs on mutton, then they are hard pressed to stop an attack.

There's no issue at the moment and eliminating the pack would only bring in new animals to take up the territory and it's perhaps better the devil you know, than the devil you don't.

They are certainly there and very aware of the sheep and unfortunately some poor defenceless animal will have to suffer an awful death first, because it's probably only a matter of time. A rifle will do an admirable job on a coyote.

I also enjoy target shooting out into the field up to 220 yards with the .22, just to keep my eye in.

Personally, I have no interest in shooting deer, moose, bear or turkeys etc, although I do acknowledge that it is important to keep control on the numbers and government wildlife management ensures this using a tag method for hunters.



No humans were harmed in the writing of this.
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If you have access to some deer you should try it, delish ! Especially if you have White tail up there
 
Blue and true said:
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Well this explains a lot. People like you are the reason there's still so much resistance to change. I suppose killing a few crows and admiring your "thing of beauty" killer are more important than the lives of schoolchilden.
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As I've said before, (if you'd care to read and understand), we have a large gun ownership with strong gun control, yet we don't go around killing school children.

The vast majority of gun related deaths in this country are from gang violence and no amount of laws and regulations will change that. Purchasing hand guns has now been banned, but it won't reduce gun deaths, because there is a constant stream of guns smuggled across the border. Banning hand guns for the regular Joe is not the answer, investment in combatting the porous border is.


The question is, why is it so prevalent in the US and not throughout the world where there is also gun ownership?
 
Slipper One said:
As I've said before, (if you'd care to read and understand), we have a large gun ownership with strong gun control, yet we don't go around killing school children.

The vast majority of gun related deaths in this country are from gang violence and no amount of laws and regulations will change that. Purchasing hand guns has now been banned, but it won't reduce gun deaths, because there is a constant stream of guns smuggled across the border. Banning hand guns for the regular Joe is not the answer, investment in combatting the porous border is.


The question is, why is it so prevalent in the US and not throughout the world where there is also gun ownership?
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I didn't realize that the school shooters were members of gangs, got their guns from gangs or bought them from gun smugglers.
 
If pretty much every house in the US has a gun, maybe (I know this is not at all realistic) they should simply stop making and selling guns for the public. It doesn't make anything better but it's a step in the direction without impacting the second amendment rights.

Also .... let them eat cake.
 
TonyM said:
I didn't realize that the school shooters were members of gangs, got their guns from gangs or bought them from gun smugglers.
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And where do the gang members get guns, a lot are stolen from legal owners. Or dropped off in Compton by the government.
 
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