Tory bastards

tommyducks said:
Ronnie the Rep said:
2). Everyone able to work should work and contribute in however small a way as this gives a sense of purpose.


Feel free to have a pop (preferably constructive)
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Forgive me for singling out this point. I have been very happy working and would gladly continue to do so - rather than becoming your problem.
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Ronnie, this point is the only bone of contention. I'd love to work but it isn't there.
Agencies aren't signing people up and there is an average of 30 people applying for ANY job.
 
Too much extremism is 'british politcs'.

There is no politics.

Fund this, don't fund this.

Help the poor or help the banks. Can buy shares be wealthy - Cannot buy shares be poor.

Loan people money they don't have. Allow banks to do as they wish.

Regulation or deregulation.

Fund the services or cut the services.

British politics is subhuman and needs destroying.
 
bumbles said:
totallywired said:
Let battle commence. `The Workers United will never be defeated`. We will all suffer if the argument carries on between `private` and public` sector workers. The rich scum are getting richer and we are being made to pay for there greed. The only question we should ask these parasites, is whether they want a blindfold or not. If we do not stick tgether it could be YOU next.
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these rich bastards you talk of include council bosses on £100, s of thousands a year...Union bosses on £100, s thousands a year...right on brother , keep fighting the class war...youre blind if you beleive these so called working class heroes arent taking you for a ride..

at least some one like Branson, green etc...have worked hard and employed people , paid their bills etc...

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Skashion said:
How did I know this thread would degenerate into absurd claims that the private sector pays for the public sector as if every public sector job would not exist if everyone was to be employed by the private sector. Would we opt for the American highly cost-effective solution to health care? That hugely profitable industry with small numbers of executives whose shares are worth billions on the back of illness. Some people may argue that's an extreme example - after all most people in this country do genuinely want the NHS, but any industry or company in the private sector will pursue higher profit for themselves and their shareholders. True, they may well may make things more efficient and get rid of employees who are surplus to requirements in pursuit of it but will that money go back in your pocket? Fuck no. It goes to make the rich richer. I'd choose the option that employs more people myself. Not only do I believe it is better for society to have more people in work than on the dole or on disability but it is also far harder for them to escape taxation than someone who has an army of accountants setting up offshore accounts and legions of subsidiaries. Even worse though is to have private companies working with public money because they'll waste it under the correct assumption that the government will be there to bail them out with more.
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even karl marx didnt believe in work for all...socialism doesnt work 70+_ years of the USSR and 100million lives proved it didnt
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fuck off rag.
 
totallywired said:
bumbles said:
these rich bastards you talk of include council bosses on £100, s of thousands a year...Union bosses on £100, s thousands a year...right on brother , keep fighting the class war...youre blind if you beleive these so called working class heroes arent taking you for a ride..

at least some one like Branson, green etc...have worked hard and employed people , paid their bills etc...

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even karl marx didnt believe in work for all...socialism doesnt work 70+_ years of the USSR and 100million lives proved it didnt
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fuck off rag.
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China is very prosperous and is contiuing to enhance thier reputation as a world superpower.
Cuba has the best education and NHS in the world.
Are they not socialist?
 
117 M34 said:
totallywired said:
fuck off rag.
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China is very prosperous and is contiuing to enhance thier reputation as a world superpower.
Cuba has the best education and NHS in the world.
Are they not socialist?
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With that statement shows you have never ever been near Cuba or China
 
mcfc1632 said:
BimboBob said:
I'm sorry to hear this mate but 1 years salary? If you are not in the public sector you get 1 week for every year you have worked for the company under 40 and 1.5 above 40. This is why this country is in debt if the public sector pay offs are that generous.

My mate just got made redundant the other week. He's 45. 15 years service. Came out with 20 weeks pay off. No early pension. In the private sector you would have got similar.
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This - of course sad for the individual - but the Labour government's need to keep civil service unions onside and buy votes that way have left the country on the edge of bankruptcy - now another government has to the dirty work that those gutless clowns did not have the balls to do
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Really sorry for the OP.

But...THIS.
 
tommyducks said:
So the cuts begin. Twenty years doing a good job in the public sector, and it's out the door with a year's salary and an early pension. What these morons don't realise is that the private sector will also be crippled when the millions they put on the dole can't afford Christmas presents this year. May the tories rot in hell.
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Sorry to hear that mate,i work in public sector myself and the cuts are coming to an office near me very soon,so i would just like to join you in a rant at the tories,fuck you, you rotten dirty fucking public school wankers !
 
i'm not sure why you are so surprised

the north has and always will be fucked over by the tory's

(i take it your northern tommyducks)
 
Ronnie the Rep said:
aphex said:
i'm not sure why you are so surprised

the north has and always will be fucked over by the tory's

(i take it your northern tommyducks)
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Errr, Aphex you dope! He works in Sussex lol
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he does?

looks like they are now fucking the whole place up then!

;)

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i've looked at his location in big letters... the coalition is surely a fix.
 
Ronnie the Rep said:
aphex said:
he does?

looks like they are now fucking the whole place up then!

;)
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or, here's a good conspiracy theory, Maybe they are checking everyone's accent south of Watford and are weeding out all the Northern infiltrators! What do you reckon?
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i reckon that is more likely

sussex is a cover..

is that you david?

(bad taste - sorry)
 
So how much are you getting as a pay off and how much a month will your pension be? When I was discharged I was given a years pay, free of tax, of £27,000 and a pension of £808 a month. I paid £9000 off the mortgage, cleared credit card debt and the rest was placed in ISA's over a 2 years period, making any income tax free. When I sat down and worked out what my expenses were (car, fuel, insurance and tax etc) I found out I only had to earn an extra £400 a month to keep the same living standard. So things might not be as bad as you first thought.
 
smudgedj said:
So how much are you getting as a pay off and how much a month will your pension be? When I was discharged I was given a years pay, free of tax, of £27,000 and a pension of £808 a month. I paid £9000 off the mortgage, cleared credit card debt and the rest was placed in ISA's over a 2 years period, making any income tax free. When I sat down and worked out what my expenses were (car, fuel, insurance and tax etc) I found out I only had to earn an extra £400 a month to keep the same living standard. So things might not be as bad as you first thought.
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yeah but you live in a tree house at the highest point of the world

the taxman is far to fat and unfit to knock on your door...
 
aphex said:
smudgedj said:
So how much are you getting as a pay off and how much a month will your pension be? When I was discharged I was given a years pay, free of tax, of £27,000 and a pension of £808 a month. I paid £9000 off the mortgage, cleared credit card debt and the rest was placed in ISA's over a 2 years period, making any income tax free. When I sat down and worked out what my expenses were (car, fuel, insurance and tax etc) I found out I only had to earn an extra £400 a month to keep the same living standard. So things might not be as bad as you first thought.
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yeah but you live in a tree house at the highest point of the world

the taxman is far to fat and unfit to knock on your door...
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Fair points, however I was talking about when I lived in the UK. Of course the OP could always move here, there is an apartment going for rent a couple of floors above and $100 a month cheaper than mine!
 
smudgedj said:
aphex said:
yeah but you live in a tree house at the highest point of the world

the taxman is far to fat and unfit to knock on your door...
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Fair points, however I was talking about when I lived in the UK. Of course the OP could always move here, there is an apartment going for rent a couple of floors above and $100 a month cheaper than mine!
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the genius of labour pay someone £30,000 take approx £8,000 back in tax, net loss £22,000 gain a vote and employment figures look good, hit recession realise were up the swanny, new government has to try and sort it out and becomes despised and gets kicked out, labour comes charging in and we start again
 
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