Tradesmen

Warwickhunt said:
blumoonrisen said:
Warwickhunt said:
You're right, it was the same with the ACS, and now they switched from corgi to gas safe, they're all just money making rackets.

It's also the same with the nvq's now.
There is for example, machine men, been operating machines for 30yrs+, now having to do nvq's because some office jockey thinks they aren't qualified enough to operate said machine.

Exactly.. I'm a time served joiner, but despite my 4yrs coll C&G adv and 30yrs exp etc, I'm waiting for some twat to decide I need to pay a grand to go on a "how to use a hammer and saw in a safe way" course... and if I don't go on it then I'm obviously not a proper joiner and folk should steer clear cos I'll rip them off and my work will be shit..

Me brother had the same crap not long ago, been plastering since he was 14, now been doing it 40 years. apparently 40 yrs experience isn't enough for these pen pushers.

I'll tell you what though, give me these 30 and 40 years experienced men over the fresh out of college with qualifications coming out of there arses anyday, the experienced men have forgot more than these lot know.
BTW, i'll pm you something.

And its attitudes like you're that piss me off, I done a 3 year apprenticeship and won app of the year, was in the paper and shit. Yet I got made redundant, have not been able to get any long term work since because I'm 21 and ' not experienced' enough even though I was better than half the lazy arsed cunts who had been their 30 years.

Now am stuck in an office doing something I hate.
 
Bilboblue said:
Thenumber1blue said:
Bilboblue said:
Do you do YOUR job perfectly EVERY time?

If not, stop fkn whingeing and next time, do it yourself you moany fucker.
Actually always do my work to the best of my ability and dont fucking try to rob people,so if I want to moan about every second prick cowboy tradesman doing this then I will.


I bet you are a right bundle of laughs ain't ya?

Read what you have put again, you really are coming across as a moaning windbag.

As the saying goes, if you pay peanuts.....

Everyone wants a Buckingham Palace syle finish on a Waynetta Slob style home for £2 and a cup of tea these days.
What the fuck are you going on about,whoever mentioned paying peanuts.Are you real thats part of my whole gripe.Clueless or what!
 
malg said:
salfordpaul said:
corgi has gone now its gassafe pal! i'm gassafe registered and all i do is central heating service , repairs and installations! i could work 8 days a week if there were that many days! I like the fact that this body is behind me , checking my work etc! means that there are few cowboys in the gas industry! (contrary to pop belief, most on rogue traders are NOT qualified!)

I am so busy its great! treat customers well, dont bullshit them and do a good job and you ll get loads of recommends!!

i can fit a boiler for x amount but i have a lot of outgoings(gassafe , ins, training,van etc etc) some chancer could do it for half of that.....is it worth the saving??
and you're ITK......:-)

you want to see my client list ;)
 
PJMCC1UK said:
We all end up getting tarred with the same brush then. I'm a joiner tend not to do many foreigners but any I do have been to a good standard and I've had no bad reviews or re calls.

We're not all bad we just get bad press.

You fucked my mums house up but she lost your number, thats why youve had no calls.
 
A combination of me being more useless than you can imagine at DIY and the guy who owned my jouse before me thinking he was a jack of all trades (he wasn't) means I've had to use various different tradesmen over the last 18 months or so, some have been excellent, others have ripped me off something rare. I've had a quality plummer, electrician, plasterer, tiler and alarm fixer, all of whom I've kept the contact details for and will definitely be using again. However, the first plasterer I tried tried to cut so many corners and his work simply wasn't good enough. The joiner I used was a right pisshead and was so unreliable it was untrue. When he showed up his work was fine, but he'd regularly say he'd be there for 9am and rock up at 4pm to do "a couple of hours work" so he was sent packing. The worst one though was the guys we got in to pave the back garden and move the pond. They'd clearly never done a pond before in their lives from the right balls up they made of trying to do it, although they claimed prior to starting that they did them "all the time". They "finished" with a few bits and pieces left to be done, nothign major, but some cosmetic and some more imprtant things, and that was 5 months ago and they've not been back since. They obviously decided the money we held back from the overall cost wasn't sufficient for them to bother and they could get more money by starting other jobs elsewhere.

So, basically, it's pot luck with tradesmen some times. Some are great, but its always those who fuck you over and do a shit job that you remember.
 
scall said:
Bilboblue said:
Thenumber1blue said:
What is up with these people,why cant they do the job properly ,whilst not trying to rip you off.Just had one back to re-do a couple of small things which were faulty only after 2-3 months of paying him good money the first time.At the end of his 10 minute visit,the cheeky fuck asked me for another £40.


Do you do YOUR job perfectly EVERY time?

If not, stop fkn whingeing and next time, do it yourself you moany fucker.

Correct mate. Sometimes they'll make mistakes and problems may happen, it's just the way it is. Some people forget this and all of a sudden "tradesmen" are out to rip you all off because that piece of wallpaper peeled a bit a few months later or the new plug socket came lose after a few months.

I'm a gardener, so classed as a tradesman. Sometimes things don't always go to plan. Someone might pay me to spray a load of weedkiller, and sometimes for whatever reason, all the weeds don't all die. Not my fault, most of them did, but not all did. Suddenly the customer could turn round and say I ripped them off. I did the job in good faith, did everything right, but especially in my job when dealing with nature, not all goes as it should do. This has never happened to me by the way, as far as I know, all my customers have been happy.

I find myself constantly having to prove that I'm not a dodgy tradesmen all the time to new customers. However, I am lucky in that most of my work comes from recommendations.

Trouble with me is that I'm a bit TOO nice and kind for people. I've spent most this week dealing with non-gardening problems for customers and it's got to the point where some of them are taking advantage of me!!! Can't win sometimes.

And whilst we're on the subject, can I just say, if you ever have any tradespeople in to do some work, here's a few tips:

- Offer them a brew first off. Helps break the ice. Don't be snide with the biscuits either, gets you off to a good start.
- Don't feel you have to hang around to supervise them. I'm good at what I do, do a good job, but there's nothing worse than a customer who's staring out the window at you, or comments "Oh yeah, I saw you were having difficulty get the tree stump out, but 5 minutes later that big plant came out no problem"....you tend you think that they've been keeping an eye on you.
- Don't think you can sneak stuff onto the job you've agreed. One guy asked me to cut a lawn, but when I finished he said "oh, and any chance you could cut down that tree whilst you're here? I'll pay extra of course". OK he was paying, but come on, say so at the beginning, I'd have allotted extra time for it and maybe got some proper gear in to do it.
- Don't try and be clever and barter a discount if you pay cash instead of a cheque.
- Nothing worse than a late payer. If they send an invoice, pay the thing as soon as you can. If you can't pay straight away (say if it's for a lot and you're waiting for a loan to come through) tell them. I hate people who intentionally withold money, or pay me 30 days after an invoice to get the most out of the payment terms. My best customers are the ones who pay straight away, and if I have a backlog because of bad weather, first customers to go to the back of the queue are persistent late payers or people who owe me money.

Tradesman have a difficult time enough without people being arsey with them. Imagine if you're doing a tough job and all you get is people not trusting you to be honest, which 99% of tradespeople are. Make their lives that little bit easier, make their day enjoyable, you'll get a better job out of them.

a gardener is not a recognised trade.....
but i see your points about customers.
im a bricky and have the same problems.
but when a tradesman comes to my house, i treat them as i would want to be treated on a job.
 
1dart said:
PJMCC1UK said:
We all end up getting tarred with the same brush then. I'm a joiner tend not to do many foreigners but any I do have been to a good standard and I've had no bad reviews or re calls.

We're not all bad we just get bad press.

You fucked my mums house up but she lost your number, thats why youve had no calls.

Your just upset because she employed me and not you and kept telling you how lovely I was.
 

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