Trident

Why do we even have it then? Countries like Pakistan, India are striving to acquire their own independent nuclear capabilities, what the fuck are we doing handing over ultimate control of our defence to the Americans and paying billions for the pleasure. The French don't seem to have a problem developing a missile system independently to the Americans maybe we should think about doing the same.
Ignore him mate. He is wrong but still pretending he thinks he knows
 
When you say the NATO command structure - do you mean we a political command structure, or an actual physical one, e.g. there's a NATO guy in the physical process of launching who can stop it?
Surely if there's only a UK commander on a submarine and he's given the order, there's no physical means of intervention? (or is there? - is he physically capable of launching without any intervention / unlock codes from NATO etc?)

Imagine a rogue commander of the sub, with sole capability to launch - that seems odd.
At an absolutely wild stab in the dark.... I would have thought that EVEN if the the missiles were launched, there might be some secondary acknowledgement required whilst airborne to 'unlock' the bmb as such. That way, even an accidental misfire, or rogue commander couldn't make it happen - the missile would need a secondary confirmation via satellite or something.

Anybody know?
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You keep saying this but it really isn't truly independent. It operates under the NATO command structure normally and our NATO allies have to be consulted before we use it. Theoretically the PM could ignore that advice but I simply couldn't see that happening and neither could President Kennedy in 1962 when he agreed to let us have access to the missile technology. There was a form of words giving us freedom of action in cases where our "supreme national interest" was threatened but that was deliberately ambiguous. JFK meant that as a sop to UK public opinion and he and his advisers saw no circumstances in which that might happen outside a NATO framework.
How are you so sure that you are correct? Are you claiming to be well ITK or have you read a lot of "stuff"
 
what a load of crap. You honestly think the US would bomb Faslane and take outthe on patrol boat? Stop talking bollocks. Trident IS NOT an extention of US arms, where are you getting this shit from?
I asked you lastnight andyou failed to answer, but why do youthink youare an authority on this?
In instances like this when discussing submarines I'm far more likely to take the word of somebody who's location is 'Deep under the ocean'
 
what a load of crap. You honestly think the US would bomb Faslane and take outthe on patrol boat? Stop talking bollocks. Trident IS NOT an extention of US arms, where are you getting this shit from?
I asked you lastnight andyou failed to answer, but why do youthink youare an authority on this?
What makes you an authority? Tell how you know, with 100% certainty, that Trident is absolutely under our political control.
 

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